How 'bout those Ducks?

[Phalanx]

I thought it was time to bring a little class to this forum by installing an Oregon Ducks thread. While Michigan joins the ranks of has-been teams like Nebraska and Oklahoma, Oregon has quietly been ascending the ranks with a high-powered offense led by Kellen Clemens and a possible future Lions #1 pick, wide receiver Demetrius Williams. Last week, the Ducks went down to Tempe and thumped 17th-ranked Arizona State 31-17 to move to 5-1 overall. By virtue of this second win of the season over a ranked opponent, the Ducks flew up to #20 in the polls, while passing the Wolverines, who were evidently heading South for the winter.

I'll try to update this thread as a friendly weekly reminder as Oregon continues up the ladder. By the end of the season, maybe you wolverine fans can tune in with me to the Ducks' bowl game, if you aren't doing anything. The Motor city bowl, or whatever game the wolverines are playing in this year, should be over by then, so mark your calendars! :lol:

Your left coast correspondent,

Phalanx

[Proactive 1]

Hey, Phallic...be sure to come back to tell us about them Ducks when they've got 840+ wins...or maybe after their 36th bowl game...or after they win their conference for the 42nd time...or, at the very least, after their 11th national championship.

Until recently no one east of Idaho ever heard of the Oregon Ducks...and pretty much laughed when they did. Ducks?...too funny.

[wombat]

They are, so far, proving to be a good team. It would have done wonders for them had they been able to beat USC. Alas, USC is just an awesome team.

I hate UofM, so you won't be hearing me complain about the Ducks being better than them this year.

[Phalanx]

Hi, Proactive. I hope you didn't think I was ripping on your team. I agree that teams like Michigan and Princeton and Yale and Harvard have great football history and tradition, I just thought I would be nice and invite you to follow a team that is good THIS CENTURY so that you can have a bowl game to watch at the end of the year. If you would rather go down with the ship in Michigan, that's your choice. The Ducks are there if you need them, my friend. I'm just here to help.

Until recently no one east of Idaho ever heard of the Oregon Ducks...and pretty much laughed when they did. Ducks?...too funny.

yeah, hehe, that is pretty funny.

I don't know much about Wolverines history, living west of Idaho and all, but it seems like I did see those Wolverines play once. I can't quite remember where that was............

http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20030923/football/315444.html

ahh...now I remember. I don't think they were laughing when I saw them though. Actually, I think one of those magazines might have a picture of it somewhere....

[thersalwysnxtyr]

what was their record last year??

im sorry, 5-6??

what bowl did they, oh wait, thats not a good enough record to play in a bowl game, oops....
good this century, they werent even good for 80% of this century, pah-lease.


it is true that this is a down year for the wloverines, but lets be sensical: the ducks arent in the same class as the 'rines.

too bad for you.

[Phalanx]

Hi there.....uh......whatever your name is.......it's nice to meet you. I enjoyed your post.

what was their record last year?? im sorry, 5-6?? what bowl did they, oh wait, thats not a good enough record to play in a bowl game, oops.....

Wow, that's true, I had never thought of that. I guess this means that the poor Wolverines might not be able to play in the Motor City Bowl after all. Please feel free to come over to my house and watch the Ducks in their bowl game instead, if you want.



lets be sensical: the ducks arent in the same class as the 'rines.

I completely agree. I have been of that opinion ever since I watched "the 'rines" play in Eugene two years ago.

I'm excited about this weekend, how about you Wolverine fans? Good luck against Penn State, I hear they are pretty good. The Ducks played them in the Rose Bowl several years back; it wasn't pretty. But then, I guess I can't compare, since the wolverines are in a different class. I guess they will probably make short work of those Nittany kittens. What a relief it will be to have a winning record again, huh? Go Wolverines!!

[Phalanx]

Well, another week in the books has left the surging Oregon Ducks at #15 in the latest A.P. poll after they pasted the Washington Huskies 45-21. I know a lot of you are wondering what the chances of the Ducks getting a BCS bowl bid would be. Let me just say how relieved the whole Pac-10 is right now that USC didn't lose to Notre Dame. If they had, the whole conference shifts down one bowl. It looks like UCLA and Oregon, who don't play each other this year, will be vying for 2nd in the Pac10 behind USC. I think if the Ducks win out, they will be ranked higher than the Bruins, who will most likely lose to USC at the end of the year. With only one loss to the best team in the country, I think the Ducks could lay legitimate claim to a Fiesta Bowl berth, possibly against the best Big-10 team, or Notre Dame.
Wouldn't you guys love to see the Ducks on a New Year's day bowl? I thought so.

Congrats to Michigan on a great win. I admit, I didn't think they would pull it out, but they did it. If the Ducks do lose another game, they could end up playing against the Wolverines in the Sun Bowl.


But they won't lose.
:D

[goldenlions]

I thought this forum was all college ball except Oregon??

Snow, delete this thread....ASAP!!!!!!!

:lol:

[Phalanx]

The unfortunate heading for this forum was exactly why I thought it necesary to introduce a Duck thread to this otherwise barren wasteland. The masses must be educated.

Incidently, did anyone catch the rankings in the initial BCS poll for this year? Don't look now, but there are those pesky Ducks at #13. Is a BCS bowl possible, or just a pipe dream? :shock:

[goldenlions]

Pipe dream. Just like Joey chances of returning to Detroit next season.

[Phalanx]

Well, kids, it's that time of week again; time for the weekly Oregon Ducks update. This week, the Ducks went down to Arizona and lost two quarterbacks in a matter of a few minutes, but somehow the defense managed to win the game for them 28-21. The Ducks were so desparate, they even had to play Ryan Leaf's brother Brady at QB in the fourth quarter. Thank goodness for an excellent defense.

I have to brag while I can, because I think that the Ducks may have peaked at #11 in this week's BCS poll. Kellen Clemens, our starting QB who has been selected as a finalist for the Johnny Unitas award, is out for the season with a broken ankle. Our back-up is Dennis Dixon, who is currently healing from a concussion, and is expected to be okay to start in two weeks against Jeff Tedford's 24th-ranked Cal Bears. That game suddenly looks a lot tougher than it did a few days ago.

So enjoy the nice high ranking while you can, Duck enthusiasts...it may not last long. A lot of experts are predicting SUn Bowl, but I'm still hoping for Holiday Bowl, which is generally considered the best non-BCS bowl..

Ducks off next week, stay tuned.

[LionNation]

I just saw the Ducks were voted as having the worst uniforms in the NCAA. At least they won something, season isn't a total loss.

[Anonymous]

Part of being an avant-garde, ahead-of-the-curve team is trying new things. The Ducks simply refused to be ignored, despite the best efforts of East Coast media. If that means putting up pictures of Heisman candidates on New York buildings, or dressing up in uniforms that are ahead of their time, then the Ducks will not shrink away from employing that innovative spirit.

[Phalanx]

Again with the log-in problem.

I should add that the Ducks are currently 7-1, which is as good or better than any team in the little 10. Bring it. :smt018

[wombat]

If those uniforms are ahead of the curve, I'll gladly stay behind 8)

[Phalanx]

Well, add 23rd ranked Cal to the list of conquests for the Ducks. They may have lost their quarterback, but the defense is alive and well, led by Haloti Ngata. Remember that name, people.

The BCS poll doesn't come out until Monday, but I expect to see the Ducks ranked between 9 and 11. Suddenly, a BCS game appears a little more likely, thanks to losses by UCLA and Florida State. There are some pivotal games in the next two weeks, so Oregon definitely has a shot. I am now a big Michigan fan when they play Ohio State. Go wolverines!

[wombat]

Oregon is looking good in the standings... they are moving up my list most probably. They have an outside shot at getting the at-large BCS bid (assuming that USC wins the Pac10). They just need to sway some more human voters. The computer rank for Oregon should increase (was at 9 last week... human polls are holding them back a bit).

[Phalanx]

Oregon has officially entered the top 10 in the BCS poll that came out yesterday. I think the Ducks are currently overrated because our quarterback is out for the season, and the two back-ups, Dennis Dixon and Brady Leaf (Ryan Leaf's little brother) are still not experienced enough to fill the gap. I still think we can get a BCS game though, because we only have two games left, and they are against fairly light opponents. Oregon State is the game I am worried about, but we should be alright.

With two wins, a few of the teams ahead of Oregon should get knocked off and allow the Ducks a chance to move into BCS-game ranking. Look for LSU to lose to Alabama, and root for Michigan to beat Ohio State. Also, I would love it if Stanford beat Notre Dame, but that might be asking too much. Virginia Tech should lose one more game too.

Go Ducks!

[bogartin]

Brady Leaf (Ryan Leaf's little brother)

You know that's gotta suck. You'd have to feel like your older brother has eliminated any chance you had at the NFL. Talented or not.

[LionNation]

Brady Leaf (Ryan Leaf's little brother)

You know that's gotta suck. You'd have to feel like your older brother has eliminated any chance you had at the NFL. Talented or not.

Oregon was probably the only team that would offer him a scholarship.

[Anonymous]

"he was also offered scholarships by Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, Idaho State and Washington State."

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=8&c=1&yr=2005&nid=1767543

Brady is what he is, a third-string quarterback who was called upon to lead the team in overtime and answered the bell by throwing a TD pass against the 23rd -ranked team in the nation to win the game.

I guarantee you that if he has talent, the NFL won't care if his brother was Charles Manson.

[goldenlions]

I have to agree, just because you share the same genetic makeup doesn't mean you are an improbable NFL player. If he shows the good then he will make it, if not he will be just like the many thousands that never make it.

[bogartin]

I have to agree, just because you share the same genetic makeup doesn't mean you are an improbable NFL player. If he shows the good then he will make it, if not he will be just like the many thousands that never make it.

Yeah... just ask that Eli Manning kid. Genetic makeup isn't worth its weight in shit in the NFL. I'm not saying that he isn't any good... but his daddy and brother paved his road to the NFL in GOLD.

[goldenlions]

I have to agree, just because you share the same genetic makeup doesn't mean you are an improbable NFL player. If he shows the good then he will make it, if not he will be just like the many thousands that never make it.

Yeah... just ask that Eli Manning kid. Genetic makeup isn't worth its weight in shit in the NFL. I'm not saying that he isn't any good... but his daddy and brother paved his road to the NFL in GOLD.

There you go, throwing in the old Manning shit. One fucking example of a winning family. How about the Detmers? All had the good but are mainly backups. I was trying to say just because you were shit in the NFL doesn't mean someone related to you would be the same. I am sure there are many of examples of this but I don't want to look for it at this time.

[bogartin]

I wasn't really trying to argue with you... it was just a good opportunity to be a smartass. I have a hard time passing on those... :lol:

[Anonymous]

Well, here we go again. It must be moving toward the end of the season, because the Pac-10 is starting to get the shaft in the BCS polls. Oregon, whose only loss the whole season has been to the best team in the country, has been passed in the rankings by Notre Dame, who, in addition to losing to that same aforementioned #1 team, has also been beaten by a team who will not be going to a bowl game this year. How is this possible?

It reminds a lot of people on the West Coast of the 2000 season, when Notre Dame was picked for the Fiesta Bowl even though they had two losses, and then Oregon State, with only one loss, had to beg and plead to get a berth in that same game. The South Bend paper wrote an article questioning whether or not OSU belonged in the same game as the mighty Fighting Irish. Well, that writer was right...they didn't.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2000/bowls/news/2001/01/01/notredame_speed_ap/

41-9, the Leprachauns got killed. Has everyone forgotten about this already?

The latest bowl projections have the Ducks playing against Colorado or Oklahoma in the Holiday Bowl. That is not an even match-up, but that isn't the worst of it. Oklahoma was beaten earlier in the season by UCLA, who will likely finish with only two losses. Where is UCLA projected to go? The Sun Bowl against the 5th-ranked team from the little 10. Iowa? Minnesota? This has got to stop. If a 10-1 Oregon doesn't get a BCS game, mark my words, there is going to be trouble next spring. This yearly screwing can't continue. UCLA will probably throw a bigger fit than Oregon, and you might recall tthat they actually play at the Rose Bowl. They might just take it away.

[Phalanx]

I'm always doing that. :oops:

[Phalanx]

Well, Duck fans, here it is; the end of the season. During the next week, I will make my case for the Ducks being picked over both Ohio State and Notre Dame for a BCS bid, but right now, I would like to celebrate a complete drubbing of those nasty little rodents, the Beavers. This game was so foggy, the Ducks actually scored about 80 points, but the officials didn't see some of those touchdowns, and we only got credit for 56. After getting killed by the Beavs last year, I have gotten more than enough revenge at work as the Beavers were prevented from becoming bowl eligible, and finished with half as many wins as the Ducks. The Beavers were so bad this year, even Michigan could have beat them. I doubt that Notre Dame could though.

Actually, most people from Oregon like to see both of our teams do well, except during the Civil war. This has given rise to the theory that OSU may have simply laid down for the Ducks so that we could get a BCS game. Not true, but a nice theory.

So, the current polls all have us in 8th, behind Notre Dame and Ohio State. The BCS puts us in 7th, ahead of Notre Dame. The fact that Miami lost really helped the chances of Oregon getting a BCS bowl, but there is still this odd perception that Ohio State and Notre Dame are better because they beat Michigan this year. Didn't pretty much everyone beat Michigan this year? Maybe Minnesota should get a BCS game too, and maybe Wisconsin should be in the Rose Bowl! Yeah!

Anyway, more on this later. Today, Mike Beliotti and some Oregon execs are flying down to have a chat with Fiesta Bowl officials and tell them that if they don't choose Oregon, Phil Knight will buy the whole works and have them all fired. I expect the announcement of the Ducks being selected any time now.

Go Ducks!

[def]

I want to petition to change the name of the Central Michigan Chippewas to the Central Michigan Motherfuckers...

Whos with me? Clearly I notie just now I posted this i the wrong thread so...

Go Ducks!

Win Ducks!

Waddle to the BCS Ducks!

Make Joey proud Ducks!

Where's Onterrio Smith...oh well go ducks!

Oregon is always good year in and year out, I like watching those Ducks!

Good luck Phalanx!

[wombat]

Ducks fans sure must have been cheering for Stanford at the end of the ND game... but alas ND all but sewed up that at large bid. I still think Oregon should get the other spot but will probably get screwed out of it. Unfortunately, the system is designed only to pit the #1 versus the #2 in one bowl (which it only gets right half the time and only by pure luck!), and the others are still simply designed to make money.

[wombat]

How 'bout those Ducks... lose in the Holiday Bowl. I do have to say I'm not too surprised, and I know Phalanx opined about it in another thread that the Ducks would probably lose in the aftermath of an arguable BCS diss. Oklahoma is not as horrible as everyone thought, as they played one of the toughest schedules in the nation, and just couldn't beat teams with better records than them (Texas, TT, etc) until they got the Ducks.

[thersalwysnxtyr]

How 'bout those Ducks... lose in the Holiday Bowl. I do have to say I'm not too surprised, and I know Phalanx opined about it in another thread that the Ducks would probably lose in the aftermath of an arguable BCS diss. Oklahoma is not as horrible as everyone thought, as they played one of the toughest schedules in the nation, and just couldn't beat teams with better records than them (Texas, TT, etc) until they got the Ducks.

just goes to show you how down the pac 10 was this year. any team that "deserved" a BCS bowl bid should beat the likes of OK. not that oklahomas a bad team, just inconsistant this year (kinda like michigan). the only team that they beat that was worth a half a shit was CAL. they beat arizona state and fresno state, but they are arguably the two most fraudulent teams in the top 25

i think this rose bowl is gonna be a great game

[Texan4Lions]

Well, Duck fans, here it is; the end of the season. During the next week, I will make my case for the Ducks being picked over both Ohio State and Notre Dame for a BCS bid, but right now, I would like to celebrate a complete drubbing of those nasty little rodents, the Beavers. This game was so foggy, the Ducks actually scored about 80 points, but the officials didn't see some of those touchdowns, and we only got credit for 56. After getting killed by the Beavs last year, I have gotten more than enough revenge at work as the Beavers were prevented from becoming bowl eligible, and finished with half as many wins as the Ducks. The Beavers were so bad this year, even Michigan could have beat them. I doubt that Notre Dame could though.

Actually, most people from Oregon like to see both of our teams do well, except during the Civil war. This has given rise to the theory that OSU may have simply laid down for the Ducks so that we could get a BCS game. Not true, but a nice theory.

So, the current polls all have us in 8th, behind Notre Dame and Ohio State. The BCS puts us in 7th, ahead of Notre Dame. The fact that Miami lost really helped the chances of Oregon getting a BCS bowl, but there is still this odd perception that Ohio State and Notre Dame are better because they beat Michigan this year. Didn't pretty much everyone beat Michigan this year? Maybe Minnesota should get a BCS game too, and maybe Wisconsin should be in the Rose Bowl! Yeah!

Anyway, more on this later. Today, Mike Beliotti and some Oregon execs are flying down to have a chat with Fiesta Bowl officials and tell them that if they don't choose Oregon, Phil Knight will buy the whole works and have them all fired. I expect the announcement of the Ducks being selected any time now.

Go Ducks!

Why am I not suprised that phalanx has yet to come back to this thread?

I started to crack up after reading this over and over.

Thanks Phalanx, you gave me my one reason I needed to ever root for Ok. and I haven't stopped smiling since! Oregon got screwed out of a BCS bowl LMFAO!

[wombat]

in another post somewhere, he did say that ND would get beat so he was right on that account.

[Texan4Lions]

in another post somewhere, he did say that ND would get beat so he was right on that account.

Wombat, that's why people like you around here...always the eternal optimist. :D

[Proactive 1]

Well whenever he does show up again he'll still be sucking on Joey's jock.

[wombat]

in another post somewhere, he did say that ND would get beat so he was right on that account.

Wombat, that's why people like you around here...always the eternal optimist. :D

Why thank you, I'm much obliged. Like in my signature, Hope Springs Eternal...

[Phalanx]

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[thersalwysnxtyr]

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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/recap;_ylt=AkQhfDibzOLYv9CuQg1G_sQcvrYF?gid=200609 160104


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[bogartin]

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How proud you must be of a win that consisted of nothing more than a replay official with absolute disregard of the basic rules of football. The onside kick "recovery" should have been the end of the football game, but the replay official was either not watching the same football game as the rest of the nation... or he was a Ducks' fan. The following pass play, PI was called on Oklahoma (the call was questionable), and replay CLEARLY showed that the ball had been tipped at the line of scrimmage, negating the penalty. Once again, the replay official chose to ignore the rules of football... and keep Oregon in a game they had clearly lost on the previous onside kick attempt.

[Phalanx]

Yes, thers, Congratulations also to the Wolverines; an excellent win against one of my least favorite teams. Maybe now I don't have to hear about Brady Quinn 24/7. He stunk and his team is overrated.

Bogartin, I'm guessing you missed the offensive pass interference that got OK their 30 yard TD, and also the delay of game that the refs missed on third and long where the Ducks stopped playing D in anticipation of the penalty, and OK was allowed the 25 yard catch and a new set of downs? That drive was 7 points that never should have happened. I'm not worried about one close call on the onside kick and your pass interference complaint is somewhat exaggerated. It happened on first down anyway and it was only for 10 yards or so, it's not like we got all this advantage from it. The Ducks were the better team and nobody scored their touchdowns for them. I know exactly how Sooner fans feel, because that's how we felt when we played them nine months ago and lost on the last play of the game.

I won't brag on the Ducks too much though, because as soon as we start facing real quarterbacks (thank goodness OK didn't have one), our two freshman starting DB's are going to be in trouble. I will say this, by the time we play Michigan next year, you will all have heard of Jonathan Stewart. If he can stay healthy for a whole season, he will be a Heisman trophy candidate, no doubt in my mind.

The Ducks don't play again for two weeks, so peace out until then, my RedZone brothers. Go Wolverines, I'd love to see us both in the Rose Bowl this year. Probably you will make it and we won't, but we'll see.

Go Ducks!

:D

[Texan4Lions]

If your conference has to issue an apology. All of your arguments are nill and void Phal.

You guys got over, so stop acting like you just kicked their ass.

[Phalanx]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts ( I don't know where you got that?), but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.

[goldenlions]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts, but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.

If it was the other way around, Oregon fans would be doing the same thing.

[Phalanx]

I challenge anyone to find where an Oregon fan threatened a referee, or a journalist from another team's paper, or where a University of Oregon president wrote a letter complaining about a football game. These things are not done by rational adults, only by religious fanatics posing as football fans.

[wombat]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts, but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.


I watched that game... Oklahoma couldn't be stopped either. How can you say the Ducks deserved to win that game when they gave up 211 rushing to Peterson, turned the ball over 4 times and then got a hand job of a call from the officials late in the game? If that call was CORRECT, Oregon would be 2-1 and you know it. Call it a gift of a win, but do not EVER say Oregon DESERVED to win that game.

Word eye... word

[bogartin]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts ( I don't know where you got that?), but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.

Who have you been talking to? I complained about 2 plays. One that was a BLATANT "error" in favor of the Ducks... and another on the following play (more of an "icing on the cake" call)... that only existed because of the call on the onside kick. The onside kick will go down as ONE of the worst calls in college football. The kicking team touched the ball inside the "10 yards", they interfered with a reciever in the "10 yards", and MOST IMPORTANTLY... they NEVER recovered the fucking football. What makes it worse is to find out that the "replay official" only had a STILL PHOTO to make his judgement from... and that still photo was AFTER the touching, after the interference, and before the Ducks DIDN'T recover the football. And OU came in JUST AS ADVERTISED... nobody with any common sense thought they would dismantle the Ducks. We saw the game last year. The Sooners came in as a "decent" team playing a "decent" team. The Sooners played badly... yes. But they played well enough to beat the Ducks... and they did. This win/loss is going to mean nothing for either one of these teams' National Championship run, however, because neither is good enough. Don't speak to me about "respect for Sooner fans", because I've never seen you show respect for anything. I have no ill feelings towards Oregon... it wasn't their fault the refs failed miserably at their jobs. No team in the nation could... or should... say that if the ball bounced that way for their team they wouldn't accept it. Plain and simple, Oregon got the "W"... but they didn't win that game.

[Phalanx]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts, but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.


I watched that game... Oklahoma couldn't be stopped either. How can you say the Ducks deserved to win that game when they gave up 211 rushing to Peterson, turned the ball over 4 times and then got a hand job of a call from the officials late in the game? If that call was CORRECT, Oregon would be 2-1 and you know it. Call it a gift of a win, but do not EVER say Oregon DESERVED to win that game.

Oklahoma was stopped the entired first half. Maybe instead of calling Peterson "A.D." they should call him "Second Half when everyone is injured/tired on the defense".

Yeah, Oregon had four turnovers. Because of injuries to our running backs, Dixon was forced to throw most of the day. He made some bad throws and spotted OU the ball a few times, and then the refs really helped out by calling this a fumble:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/356574.jpg

This is what I'm talking about. OU fans want the call on the onside kick brought back, but what about this call? It cost Oregon a likely score and gave the ball and the momentum back to OU.

Sooner fans can't have it both ways. Oregon was better no matter how you slice it.

[Blog]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts, but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.


I watched that game... Oklahoma couldn't be stopped either. How can you say the Ducks deserved to win that game when they gave up 211 rushing to Peterson, turned the ball over 4 times and then got a hand job of a call from the officials late in the game? If that call was CORRECT, Oregon would be 2-1 and you know it. Call it a gift of a win, but do not EVER say Oregon DESERVED to win that game.

Oklahoma was stopped the entired first half. Maybe instead of calling Peterson "A.D." they should call him "Second Half when everyone is injured/tired on the defense".

Yeah, Oregon had four turnovers. Because of injuries to our running backs, Dixon was forced to throw most of the day. He made some bad throws and spotted OU the ball a few times, and then the refs really helped out by calling this a fumble:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/356574.jpg

This is what I'm talking about. OU fans want the call on the onside kick brought back, but what about this call? It cost Oregon a likely score and gave the ball and the momentum back to OU.

Sooner fans can't have it both ways. Oregon was better no matter how you slice it.

As a disinterested observer I can unequivocally say Oklahoma got ripped off in that game, even if you disagree you have to admit the Ducks are not anything special. Also, where have you been phallic symbol?

[Phalanx]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts ( I don't know where you got that?), but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.

Who have you been talking to? I complained about 2 plays. One that was a BLATANT "error" in favor of the Ducks... and another on the following play (more of an "icing on the cake" call)... that only existed because of the call on the onside kick. The onside kick will go down as ONE of the worst calls in college football. The kicking team touched the ball inside the "10 yards", they interfered with a reciever in the "10 yards", and MOST IMPORTANTLY... they NEVER recovered the fucking football. What makes it worse is to find out that the "replay official" only had a STILL PHOTO to make his judgement from... and that still photo was AFTER the touching, after the interference, and before the Ducks DIDN'T recover the football. And OU came in JUST AS ADVERTISED... nobody with any common sense thought they would dismantle the Ducks. We saw the game last year. The Sooners came in as a "decent" team playing a "decent" team. The Sooners played badly... yes. But they played well enough to beat the Ducks... and they did. This win/loss is going to mean nothing for either one of these teams' National Championship run, however, because neither is good enough. Don't speak to me about "respect for Sooner fans", because I've never seen you show respect for anything. I have no ill feelings towards Oregon... it wasn't their fault the refs failed miserably at their jobs. No team in the nation could... or should... say that if the ball bounced that way for their team they wouldn't accept it. Plain and simple, Oregon got the "W"... but they didn't win that game.

Just look at the scoreboard, my friend. Oregon not only won the game, but they overcame a really bad refereeing crew to do it. There are so many calls that went OU's way, it's really unbelievable that they have the nerve to say they should have won in public.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l227/educkreader/3rd_qtr_5-05.jpg

This was one of several obvious delay of game penalty's that should have been called against OU. The trouble with this one is it happened on third down and the delay caused the Oregon defense to hesitate in anticipation of the penalty. The Sooners got 25 yards and a new set of downs on this play, which led to this "Touchdown" by Kelly on the obvious push-off, also not called by the refs:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l227/educkreader/pushoff.jpg

Will these go down as the 'worst calls in History"? Should the refs just have reviewed these and handed the game to Oregon? No...Oregon had to go out and earn the game by scoring its own Touchdowns...and that is exactly what they did. Get over it, the Sooners lost, and if they played Oregon again, this time with a healthy Jonathan Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson, OU would lose even worse.

[Phalanx]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts, but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.




I watched that game... Oklahoma couldn't be stopped either. How can you say the Ducks deserved to win that game when they gave up 211 rushing to Peterson, turned the ball over 4 times and then got a hand job of a call from the officials late in the game? If that call was CORRECT, Oregon would be 2-1 and you know it. Call it a gift of a win, but do not EVER say Oregon DESERVED to win that game.

Oklahoma was stopped the entired first half. Maybe instead of calling Peterson "A.D." they should call him "Second Half when everyone is injured/tired on the defense".

Yeah, Oregon had four turnovers. Because of injuries to our running backs, Dixon was forced to throw most of the day. He made some bad throws and spotted OU the ball a few times, and then the refs really helped out by calling this a fumble:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/356574.jpg

This is what I'm talking about. OU fans want the call on the onside kick brought back, but what about this call? It cost Oregon a likely score and gave the ball and the momentum back to OU.

Sooner fans can't have it both ways. Oregon was better no matter how you slice it.There is no control of the ball in that picture. Hence, fumble.

Plus, what the hell is with the excuses on the Ducks' end? So what if you have injuries and your defense is tired. It's football, not a game of pattycake.

Anyone who looks at that picture and thinks its a fumble is on drugs, plain and simple. I'm not going to argue with an obviously biased person.

[Blog]

THe conference issued an apology because the onside kick was called wrong. Nobody is arguing that. My argument is with whiny Sooner fans who pretend that several momentum-killing calls didn't go their way earlier in the game. You can't just throw out the calls that go against you, you have to take all the mistakes into consideration if you take one. I am not acting like the Ducks kicked anyone's butts ( I don't know where you got that?), but they were most certainly the best team on the field that day, and they deserved to win that game. The Oregon offense couldn't be stopped (except by the refs) for most of the day, and that was with our awesome running back tandem playing with injury. Oklahoma was not as good as advertised.

The sad part is, we really had a lot of respect for Oklahoma and its fans until after this game when everyone from Oklahoma began to make asses of themselves. What a shame.

Who have you been talking to? I complained about 2 plays. One that was a BLATANT "error" in favor of the Ducks... and another on the following play (more of an "icing on the cake" call)... that only existed because of the call on the onside kick. The onside kick will go down as ONE of the worst calls in college football. The kicking team touched the ball inside the "10 yards", they interfered with a reciever in the "10 yards", and MOST IMPORTANTLY... they NEVER recovered the fucking football. What makes it worse is to find out that the "replay official" only had a STILL PHOTO to make his judgement from... and that still photo was AFTER the touching, after the interference, and before the Ducks DIDN'T recover the football. And OU came in JUST AS ADVERTISED... nobody with any common sense thought they would dismantle the Ducks. We saw the game last year. The Sooners came in as a "decent" team playing a "decent" team. The Sooners played badly... yes. But they played well enough to beat the Ducks... and they did. This win/loss is going to mean nothing for either one of these teams' National Championship run, however, because neither is good enough. Don't speak to me about "respect for Sooner fans", because I've never seen you show respect for anything. I have no ill feelings towards Oregon... it wasn't their fault the refs failed miserably at their jobs. No team in the nation could... or should... say that if the ball bounced that way for their team they wouldn't accept it. Plain and simple, Oregon got the "W"... but they didn't win that game.

Just look at the scoreboard, my friend. Oregon not only won the game, but they overcame a really bad refereeing crew to do it. There are so many calls that went OU's way, it's really unbelievable that they have the nerve to say they should have won in public.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l227/educkreader/3rd_qtr_5-05.jpg

This was one of several obvious delay of game penalty's that should have been called against OU. The trouble with this one is it happened on third down and the delay caused the Oregon defense to hesitate in anticipation of the penalty. The Sooners got 25 yards and a new set of downs on this play, which led to this "Touchdown" by Kelly on the obvious push-off, also not called by the refs:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l227/educkreader/pushoff.jpg

Will these go down as the 'worst calls in History"? Should the refs just have reviewed these and handed the game to Oregon? No...Oregon had to go out and earn the game by scoring its own Touchdowns...and that is exactly what they did. Get over it, the Sooners lost, and if they played Oregon again, this time with a healthy Jonathan Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson, OU would lose even worse.


and if they played Oregon again, this time with a healthy Jonathan Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson, OU would lose even worse

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I can see that Jonathan Stewart looks like a real gamer- so you might be right.

[Phalanx]

Are there any rational people left on this site, or has it been taken over completely by Blogs?

I guess all of the sane people left and became Steeler fans.

[Blog]

Are there any rational people left on this site, or has it been taken over completely by Blogs?

I guess all of the sane people left and became Steeler fans.

I'll take that as a compliment from someone that looks at their Ducks and the world through humorless rose colored glasses.

Hows your beloved Joey doing?

[Blog]

Are there any rational people left on this site, or has it been taken over completely by Blogs?

I guess all of the sane people left and became Steeler fans.

I'll take that as a compliment from someone that looks at their Ducks and the world through humorless rose colored glasses.

Hows your beloved Joey doing?

You mean green tinted glasses.

As Dan Miller says...check that :wink:

[Phalanx]

The clock on the television set, unfortunately for you, is not an official clock. It is not synced with the game clock nor the play clock.

How is that unfortunate for me? Everyone who was at the game saw the clock go to zero about two seconds before they got the play off, if anything, the TV clock is slow. Everyone in that building expected a penalty, but instead, OU got a free 25 yards out of it. Instead of 3rd and 15 from their own 22, they got 1st down on the Oregon 47.

Oregon was getting hammered by the officials over and over in that game, and now I have to hear from Sooner fans about how we used the refs to cheat. What a joke. If the refs had called it right the whole game, the Ducks would have never needed an onside kick to win, they would have had a sizeable lead already.

[Blog]

http://brytodd.com/images1/detroit04/EMU%20phallic%20symbol.JPG

Eastern Michigan University has a tribute to you, phallic symbol

[goldenlions]

http://brytodd.com/images1/detroit04/EMU%20phallic%20symbol.JPG

Eastern Michigan University has a tribute to you, phallic symbol

Too funny Blog, i just drove by that thing this morning.

I am no way a college football expert, but Phalanx aside, have the Ducks done really anything in college football? Have they ever won the Championship?

[Phalanx]

It's amazing how Oregon beats teams like Michigan, Texas, and Oklahoma with such terrible players. 8)

And just think: next year, we bring our terrible show to Ann Arbor. Should be an easy win for the 'rines with all of our terrible players, I guess.

[goldenlions]

Until this newly refreshed thread, I didn't realize they still had a team.

[Phalanx]

As the title indicates, this thread is about the Ducks. If you don't care about Oregon or the Ducks, don't post on the thread. See? Really simple. You can all pretend you don't care about Oregon, but the fact that you post on here kind of proves that you do, as does the fact that you watched the game. Either that, or you just like to follow ol' Phalanx around like so many little lap dogs waiting for whatever I say next. Oh...Hi Smails....I didn't see you there. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah, don't post on the thread if you don't care. I don't care that you don't care, so don't waste your time or mine.

I see this thread being carried on at least until next year's game against Michigan. I know next to nothing about Michigan, but I saw that they beat Notre Dame pretty handily, so hopefully they are good next year. The Ducks return Dixon, the QB as well as Jonathan Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson, and almost the whole offensive line. Stewart is already being heralded in the media as a Heisman candidate for next year, and Dixon is already a pretty good QB, so it looks good on our end. Should be a heck of a game.

At any rate, up next for the Ducks is Arizona State, fresh off a loss to Cal. I'm worried about our secondary, but hopefully the offense can just outscore them. Still waiting for Jonathan to get healthy and bust out like we know he can. He's been good so far, but when healthy, he is unstoppable.

See you Saturday...Go Ducks!

[Blog]

Stewart is already being heralded in the media as a Heisman candidate for next year
Maybe you will help pay for a billboard in lower Manhatten

http://www.softycentral.com/sights/newphoto/harr.jpg
No. 14 Oregon hopes ASU visit proves Oklahoma victory was no fluke

By ANDREW BAGNATO, AP Sports Writer
September 28, 2006

TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- The Oregon Ducks have heard that the referees handed them a 34-33 victory over Oklahoma Sept. 16. They've heard that the controversial game could rob the Sooners of a shot at the national title.

What the 14th-ranked Ducks (3-0) haven't heard is that they gained 501 yards on the Sooners and made their share of big plays that afternoon in Eugene.

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"It has been difficult because it's taken away a lot of the luster of this victory, and that's very frustrating," coach Mike Bellotti said this week. "It's also given me cause to tell our kids that we need to validate that victory, and the best way to do that is to win our next game."

That comes Saturday afternoon against Arizona State (3-1) in Sun Devil Stadium. The Sun Devils are wounded after being bounced from the Top 25 in a 49-21 drubbing at California last week.

A victory would stamp the Ducks as a legitimate threat to win their first Pac-10 title since 2001. But a loss could provide ammunition for critics who think the Ducks lucked out against OU.

"After the Oklahoma game, with people questioning our ability to beat them without the ref's help, quote-unquote, this week is important for us to go and get a big win to let everybody know we're not some kind of fluke," tailback Jonathan Stewart said.

In Oregon's victory over the Sooners, officials mistakenly awarded the Ducks possession after a late onside kick. The conference announced a one-game suspension for each of the seven on-field officials, the replay official and his assistant. Replay official Gordon Riese was later granted a leave of absence for the remainder of the season.

And Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen apologized to Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops.

The Ducks, who had a bye last weekend, have had nearly two weeks to absorb the national reaction. The more Bellotti heard, the angrier he became.

"Do I not think they're giving us the credit?" he said. "Have you read the headlines?

"In all of that controversy, it has not been publicized as much what this team did, what the Ducks did," Bellotti said. "Are we proud of what we accomplished? Yes. Should that be acknowledged? Absolutely."

In the furor over the OU game, few have noticed the emergence of Oregon's offense, which leads the Pac-10 in total offense (471.3 yards per game) and ranks second in scoring (37.7 points per game).

Junior quarterback Dennis Dixon leads the conference with 272.3 passing yards per game. But the Ducks are equally dangerous running the ball. Stewart, a sophomore, ranks fourth in the conference with 105 yards per game.

Against the Sooners, Dixon threw for 341 yards and two touchdowns and ran for a third touchdown. He also threw two interceptions. Stewart ran for 144 yards and one touchdown.

The Ducks have transformed themselves from a pass-oriented program to one that seeks offensive balance. Oregon has not led the Pac-10 in rushing since 1955, but the Ducks are averaging a conference-best 198.3 yards after three games.

"I think we have kept defenses honest, and that's the whole goal," Bellotti said. "I think we've created some questions in the mind of the defensive linemen of whether it's run or pass."

The Sun Devils are doing the same thing. Koetter, a former Oregon offensive coordinator, favors a big-play passing attack. But after four games the Devils have called 21 more runs than passes.

One reason is that they didn't face a big deficit until Cal jumped out to a 42-14 halftime lead last weekend in Berkeley. But another reason is quarterback Rudy Carpenter's struggles and the emergence of junior tailback Ryan Torain.

Carpenter has thrown eight interceptions, six more than a year ago, when he led the nation in passing efficiency.

"When you're unsettled, or when you're feeling at some point like you're putting too much pressure on your quarterback, the easiest thing to do is run the football and they do it very well," Bellotti said. "So I would anticipate a healthy dose of their running game."

The Sun Devils will be without their top offensive lineman, senior right tackle Andrew Carnahan. Carnahan, who suffered a knee injury at Cal, is likely to miss the rest of the season.

[Phalanx]

Well, Arizona State sure wasn't what they were cracked up to be. Oregon wins this laugher 48-13, and that was after spotting them a kickoff return for a TD late in the game. This win was like taking candy from a baby, and I hope Oregon isn't too cocky after this one, because next week they will face a much better team in the California Bears. That game is shaping up to be a big one, with the winner in a good position for a BCS bowl berth. I doubt Oregon would get screwed this year after wins over Fresno State on the road and Oklahoma at home (even if it was a controversial win). Oregon's schedule is difficult this year because they play all of the best teams in the Pac-10 on the road, but a win over Cal would make the season look a lot better. Injuries are still a big problem though; the defensive line coach is starting to get guys out of the stands to play, and Jonathan Stewart is still having problems with his ankle. It would be nice to face Cal at full strength, but such is life.

Congrats to Michigan on the win, kinda seems like they are running parallel with the Ducks. It's a longshot, but it would be cool to see them both in the Rose Bowl.

Look for the Ducks to rise to 11th or so in the polls this week. If they beat Cal, they'll start getting a lot more hype, which I won't like as much, but I guess it's good for recruiting.

-P

[LionNation]

This is one thread you can delete Felix.

[Phalanx]

Felix is a closet Duck fan. :wink:

Thanks for reading, LN.

[Phalanx]

Don't think I don't know that you people come to this forum specifically to see what I will say next about the Ducks. This thread has more views than any other thread in this whole area of the site. Put that in your collective pipes and smoke it.

I'm just here providing a service for all of the closet Duck fans who are too afraid to speak up but who obviously are reading this thread faithfully. I speak for them when I say

GO DUCKS!!


8)

[Blog]

Don't think I don't know that you people come to this forum specifically to see what I will say next about the Ducks. This thread has more views than any other thread in this whole area of the site. Put that in your collective pipes and smoke it.

I'm just here providing a service for all of the closet Duck fans who are too afraid to speak up but who obviously are reading this thread faithfully. I speak for them when I say

GO DUCKS!!


8)

thank you for the service- Im starting to like this team :wink:

[Blog]

Phalanx, you making some well thought out points- But i want to see if they are really thought out or are you just a homer. Answer me 3 questions please:

Does Joey Harrington have the NFL skills to be a good quarterback?

If so what are those skills?

What percentage of his lack of success in Detroit his fault; and why?

[Phalanx]

Blog, while your questions are thoughtful ones, they are beyond the scope of this thread. I'm trying really hard not to comment on how the Lions are doing without Joey, even though it is killing me. I would love to talk about Dre Bly, and about all of the great receivers that Joey was supposed to have had, etc. but I'm trying to bite my tongue, at least until Thanksgiving or so.

Do don't ask me those kinds of questions, or if you do, ask them in a different thread. The only mention of Joey that should be in this thread is in reference to when he played for the Ducks.

Speaking of the Ducks, check out the initial BCS poll. I can't wait for Saturday. Biggest game of the year sp far, with apologies to Oklahoma, who would probably say the same about their game this weekend.

Go Ducks

[Blog]

Blog, while your questions are thoughtful ones, they are beyond the scope of this thread. I'm trying really hard not to comment on how the Lions are doing without Joey, even though it is killing me. I would love to talk about Dre Bly, and about all of the great receivers that Joey was supposed to have had, etc. but I'm trying to bite my tongue, at least until Thanksgiving or so.

Do don't ask me those kinds of questions, or if you do, ask them in a different thread. The only mention of Joey that should be in this thread is in reference to when he played for the Ducks.

Speaking of the Ducks, check out the initial BCS poll. I can't wait for Saturday. Biggest game of the year sp far, with apologies to Oklahoma, who would probably say the same about their game this weekend.

Go Ducks

OK Ill respect that- no more Joey talk in this thread.

[Phalanx]

Maybe we should start talking about Joey...that's when the Ducks used to win big games. Today, the Ducks went down to Berkeley and got shellacked by the Cal Bears. The final score was 45-24, but even that doesn't give the full story on the butt-kicking that Cal handed to the Ducks. This game had me already thinking about next season, because they just didn't look good today. The receivers were dropping passes, Dixon was throwing the ball right to defenders (he had three picks on the night), and the team turned the ball over on three positions in the first half alone, including the first play of the game. The QB for Cal, Longshore, is probably the best one they've faced this year, and he picked on our Freshmen DB's all night. Rough day.

Anyway, we all looked at this game to see if the Ducks were a top 10 team this year, and it's pretty clear that they aren't. I think they will be next year; almost everyone is coming back. They can still do pretty well this year, especially if they can beat USC, but that game is also away, so they'll need to grow up some.

The first loss of the season is always kinda depressing, but I'll get over it. :)

Congrats to Michigan on another win...can't wait until they play someone good to see just how good they are. Notre Dame only sort of counts, because I think they are over rated.

See ya next week. Go Dolphins tomorrow...I know we'll all be watching to see how a former Duck performs if he is called upon.




I was talking about Justin Peelle the tight end.. Who did you think I meant? :o

[Phalanx]

Yeah, I watched a little of the OU/Texas game, but Oklahoma just didn't seem to be able to do anything offensively. Texas is a better team than I thought.

I kept waiting for an Oregon rally too, but they were like a deer in headlights the whole game. I mean the first play from scrimmage, Dixon threw off his back foot right to a Cal guy, and it was pretty much first and goal for Cal. Not a good way to start the game, and it just got worse from there. I just think they were really nervous for a big game, and they will handle it better next year when a lot of them are juniors and seniors.

I'll say this too, Jonathan Stewart ran all over the other teams we faced, but he couldn't do anything against Cal. They have an unbelievable defensive line. I don't know how they ever lost to Tennessee in their first game, but if they played again, I think Cal would win.

Sorry about Oklahoma, I was kinda rooting for them, even though I knew if they won we'd have to hear all over again how their national championship hopes were dashed by the refs in the Oregon game. I guess this way, everyone can move on now.

[Blog]

Lets see what happens Nov 11

[Phalanx]

Well, fellow Duck fans, a new week is upon us, and today I fully expect to watch the Ducks rebound against UCLA. If anyone is watching the game on TV look for me in the crowd; I'll be wearing green if that helps. Have a peachy Saturday. :)

[Texan4Lions]

Well, fellow Duck fans, a new week is upon us, and today I fully expect to watch the Ducks rebound against UCLA. If anyone is watching the game on TV look for me in the crowd; I'll be wearing green if that helps. Have a peachy Saturday. :)

You are the official L'ucks fan of this message board.

[Phalanx]

Hey guys, thanks for reading.

Well, yesterday was a pretty humdrum game, a routine beating 30-20 of a UCLA team that frankly wasn't very good. The Ducks scored touchdowns on their first 3 possessions, and then basically ran the clock down the rest of the game. Pretty boring after the initial scoring surge. I liked going to watch the game though, Autzen is a really great stadium and the campus at U of O is awesome. To get to Autzen , you walk across a little on-campus bridge over the Willamette River; it's just a lovely setting for a university.

Until the Ducks travel to USC we don't face terribly stiff competition. Hopefully the Trojans will still be undefeated at that point, they've been looking rather weak of late, despite the wins. I imagine the weeks until then will be for the Ducks to climb back up the ladder in the polls. The loss to California took them down to 18th, and I'm guessing they will be 16th or so after this win. I noticed that Georgia and Iowa lost. Georgia I knew was overrated, but Iowa was a surprise. Anyway, I look for the Ducks to be near the top 10-12 at 8-1 by that USC game, unless they throw a game to a really bad team.

One thing to report to all of you who are hoping for a Ducks-Wolverines match-up in the Rose Bowl: It isn't out of the realm of possibility yet. Cal is ahead of the Ducks with the victory last week, but if they lose to USC and the Ducks beat USC and all three end up tied, Oregon would go to the Rose Bowl by virtue of tie-breakers. So basically, we are hoping for a Cal loss and that USC keeps winning. Just thought you'd like to know that your favorite team isn't out of the running quite yet.

Next up, the Ducks travel to Pullman to face a fairly weak Washington State team (Think: Purdue or Minnesota). This is like the 5th or 6th time in a row the Ducks have to travel up there to play Wazzoo; we don't quite understand how the Pac-10 scheduling works on that, but whatever, should be a win regardless.

Stay tuned, Duck fans!!


QUACK!

[Blog]

Ducks to defeat USC.
USC has not impressed me

[goldenlions]

Ducks to defeat USC.
USC has not impressed me

If at Oregon I agree, if in SoCal, Ducks are roasted.

[Phalanx]

Like most of Oregon's big games this year, the USC game is away. This is really why Oregon wasn't picked to be a BCS-contending team this year: Their schedule is heinous. A win over USC would put us in a BCS game though, so here's hoping.

Smails, who in their right mind would shoot a completely defensive ducky? The senseless violence has got to stop.

[Phalanx]

what are you talking about? I just have to shake my head sometimes at some of these posts. I say the most innocuous things and still I get the flack.

I'm not sure what you think I meant, but most of the previews I read this year said that Oregon's tough road schedule would keep them out of the BCS this year. I don't know what your issue could possibly be with that. Do you think they don't have a tough road schedule? Do you think that they would lose all the games whether they were at home or not? I just don't get it; clue me in here. The Ducks are expected to win all of their remaining games except for USC. If they are able to do only what they are EXPECTED to do, they will still be 10-2 on the season, and they would be at least in the BCS conversation. If they win out, which is entirely possible, they will almost certainly get a BCS bowl by virtue of their difficult schedule.

[Texan4Lions]

what are you talking about? I just have to shake my head sometimes at some of these posts. I say the most innocuous things and still I get the flack.

I'm not sure what you think I meant, but most of the previews I read this year said that Oregon's tough road schedule would keep them out of the BCS this year. I don't know what your issue could possibly be with that. Do you think they don't have a tough road schedule? Do you think that they would lose all the games whether they were at home or not? I just don't get it; clue me in here. The Ducks are expected to win all of their remaining games except for USC. If they are able to do only what they are EXPECTED to do, they will still be 10-2 on the season, and they would be at least in the BCS conversation. If they win out, which is entirely possible, they will almost certainly get a BCS bowl by virtue of their difficult schedule.

It's a blanket statement. Damn near every team uses a tough road schedule as their excuse for not winning. You fail to see it for what it is... an excuse.

[Phalanx]

The only thing I fail to see is how you can pick such a stupid argument with me. You have to know that every team does better at home than on the road. If you had actually read any Duck previews/predictions before the season, you would have seen pretty much everyone calling attention to their tough road schedule. Nobody is making excuses, they are saying that those road games will be hard to win.

You might be interested also to know that the computer rankings like Sagarin, etc. give more credit for a road win than a home win. That's because it is harder to win on the road.

Anyone else? :roll:

[Texan4Lions]

The only thing I fail to see is how you can pick such a stupid argument with me. You have to know that every team does better at home than on the road. If you had actually read any Duck previews/predictions before the season, you would have seen pretty much everyone calling attention to their tough road schedule. Nobody is making excuses, they are saying that those road games will be hard to win.

You might be interested also to know that the computer rankings like Sagarin, etc. give more credit for a road win than a home win. That's because it is harder to win on the road.

Anyone else? :roll:

Dude, your not saying anything that I didn't say. YES you get more credit for winning on the road, but EVERY year, EVERY team has a shot if they can win the big ones on the road. That was my point. I am not making the case for just the ducks, but for all teams. Your statement is was and is generic.

[Phalanx]

Soo...let me get this straight.....your big ISSUE is not that it isn't true, it's just that it's true for everyone, so I shouldn't have said it? What is this, pick a stupid fight with Phalanx day? I swear you people crave dysfunction so much that sometimes if it is absent, you generate it yourself.

While the statement might be a little on the unoriginal side, it is not true for everyone. The Ducks are among a handful of teams that have the talent to be in the BCS mix. There aren't more than 15 or so, and the difference between many of them is just a favorable road vs. away schedule in this particaular year. Deal with it.

[Phalanx]

Just found the best Duck video ever on YouTube. It used to be on Russ Arch's site until the U of O made him take it down about a year ago. Gotta love YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRAfzQMg-Bo

[goldenlions]

I prefer this one better in regards to this topic, not the video but the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89O-5mgTjBM

[thersalwysnxtyr]

you talk about overrated?? arguably the 2 most overrated teams in the top 25 are oregon and oklahoma.

was i right?? i think i was right :)

[Proactive 1]

Oh, nice. You guys really know how to pile on.

Next you'll prolly be beating the drum about how a former Duck QB, first-round pick, who's now already with his second pro team (traded for a #6 next year?), is overrated too? Just because he looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck, etc., etc., etc...

[Blog]

Why are the Ducks overrated?

[Phalanx]

WOW

I'm always amazed at the following my threads have on this site. For people who supposedly don't care about the Ducks, never heard of the Ducks, and didn't even know the Ducks had a football program, you sure seem to be up on the latest Duck news. THis game was not televised, so it likely took some effort on your parts to find out how the Ducks did. Could it be we have some blossoming Ducks fans here after all?

Yes, the Ducks went up to Pullman and laid an egg. They are starting to betray the weakness that a lot of the prognosticators talked about before the season started, especially on the road. They are still on course for a bowl, but wild dreams about BCS glory are all but over. It hurts, but there's still time to have a decent season, especially with a win over USC.

Some of you have intimated that the Ducks are "way overrated". My only response is, by whom? They were picked to finish either third or fourth in the Pac-10 this year, most analysts had them at 8-9 wins in this 'rebuilding year'. I'm not sure who was overrating them. Everyone knew they had lost Kellen Clemens, Demetrius Williams, and Haloti Ngata to the NFL and that this was supposed to be a rebuilding season. Dixon, Stewart, JJ, Jaison Williams, and almost the entire offensive line will all be back next year, and that is the year Ducks fans have always pointed to for the return to prominence. This year was always supposed to be the tune-up year.

That doesn't mean that a loss to Wazzou doesn't hurt, but these 'overrated' comments are silly. Nobody projected them into a BCS game. They are still on track for most people's predictions.

Next week is against Portland State, a division 1-AA school. Should be a good week for settling down and getting ready for the stretch run. I'm pretty busy this weekend, so I'll forgoe the weekly installment. I assume the Ducks will win and after that they play the hated Huskies, so I'll catch you then.

[Blog]

WOW

I'm always amazed at the following my threads have on this site. For people who supposedly don't care about the Ducks, never heard of the Ducks, and didn't even know the Ducks had a football program, you sure seem to be up on the latest Duck news. THis game was not televised, so it likely took some effort on your parts to find out how the Ducks did. Could it be we have some blossoming Ducks fans here after all?

Yes, the Ducks went up to Pullman and laid an egg. They are starting to betray the weakness that a lot of the prognosticators talked about before the season started, especially on the road. They are still on course for a bowl, but wild dreams about BCS glory are all but over. It hurts, but there's still time to have a decent season, especially with a win over USC.

Some of you have intimated that the Ducks are "way overrated". My only response is, by whom? They were picked to finish either third or fourth in the Pac-10 this year, most analysts had them at 8-9 wins in this 'rebuilding year'. I'm not sure who was overrating them. Everyone knew they had lost Kellen Clemens, Demetrius Williams, and Haloti Ngata to the NFL and that this was supposed to be a rebuilding season. Dixon, Stewart, JJ, Jaison Williams, and almost the entire offensive line will all be back next year, and that is the year Ducks fans have always pointed to for the return to prominence. This year was always supposed to be the tune-up year.

That doesn't mean that a loss to Wazzou doesn't hurt, but these 'overrated' comments are silly. Nobody projected them into a BCS game. They are still on track for most people's predictions.

Next week is against Portland State, a division 1-AA school. Should be a good week for settling down and getting ready for the stretch run. I'm pretty busy this weekend, so I'll forgoe the weekly installment. I assume the Ducks will win and after that they play the hated Huskies, so I'll catch you then.

I think its less of people becoming duck fans and more of people trying to prove you wrong. I for one am not motivated by those things.

I mean why else would Midwest people who have the best college football team at their doorstep give a rats ass about a mediocre west coast program?

[bogartin]

I am a fan of college football, so I am a fan of all the college football teams. Except that I DESPISE the Texas Longhorns and Miami Hurricane. I also don't like Notre Dame. So by that definition, I am a fan of the Oregon Ducks.

[thersalwysnxtyr]

are you mental phallus??

OVERRATED in the sense that they WERE HIGHER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the POLLS. not that fucking difficult to understand.

[Phalanx]

are you mental phallus??

OVERRATED in the sense that they WERE HIGHER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the POLLS. not that fucking difficult to understand.

LOL. Yeah, I"M the mental one. You don't even know how to read the polls! How can you say they were rated higher than they should have been? Who decides where they 'should' be? It is based on what they have done so far. If they win, they are rated higher, if they lose they are ranked lower. The Ducks were 5-1 going into this game, and they were ranked 14th or so, with wins over ASU, Fresno State, Oklahoma, Stanford, and UCLA, and a loss to California. That was not overrated. Notre Dame was rated in the top 10 with the same record and a similar schedule, and they should have lost this week to a team that Oregon easily beat. Notre Dame is overrated. The Ducks were and are right where they should be. I guarantee you they will finish the season ranked and in a bowl game. If they don't end up winning at least 8-9 games, then I will agree that they were overrated. Until then, there is no basis to say so.

Oregon is not a top 10 team this year, but they are one of the premier football programs in the country, whether you people like it or not. A fluke loss to WSU doesn't change that. Next year, they will be a top 10 team, and the Wolverines are wary of that game next year, even if some of their less intelligent fans aren't.

[Phalanx]

Stop soiling a perfectly good Ducks thread with your stupidity. The Ducks are almost always ranked in the Top 25. How is that 30% of 119?

I actually like to hear the Ducks belittled going into next year's game in Ann Arbor. Please, by all means, keep trashing the Ducks. This thread will be readily accessible next year. :)

[goldenlions]

If I was a duck
I would run and not come out
I don't pump my gas

[Phalanx]

Anyone that rates Colorado, Alabama, UCLA and Iowa better than Oregon hasn't been following college football for a long time. You can't freeze frame the 60's and expect that to be the order of things into perpetuity. There are not 25 programs in the country better than Oregon since 1994 when the Ducks went to the Rose Bowl. How many schools have won a BCS game as the Ducks have? Until those teams win a BCS game, they can't be considered in the Ducks' league.

Thanks for the list though, I had a good laugh. You obviously don't follow college football. BYU? Are you drunk? Fresno State? Have you ever even been close to the West Coast? What a typical troll post. Go away, little troll.

[Phalanx]

I hope that your tremendous sense of history is a comfort to you next September 9th. I have a feeling you might need it. 8)

mear?

[Proactive 1]

I hope that your tremendous sense of history is a comfort to you next September 9th. I have a feeling you might need it. 8)
mear?

Ah, yes. September 8, 2007. The Ducks come to the Big House.

Me and 110,999 of my Wolverine friends will be waiting to introduce the Ducks to big time college football.

Watch the feathers fly....

[LionNation]

Phalanx is right about the Ducks. I will give out credit when credit is due and this school has turned around its program. They haven't reached elite status just yet but this team is good year in and year out. They are definately a Top 25 program right now and the past few years.

They lose guys to graduation and still keep rolling. Thats when you know you are a good program. Belotti has done a nice job there and im surprised his name doesn't get mentioned more for head coaching positions.

[Proactive 1]

And a fine job of shoving it was, joeyfive.

[Phalanx]

LOL!!!

Hold on a second.....I have to stop laughing first.....


Sorry....this is going to take some time.

I'm dying over here!!

Oh my sides!!!



Okay, I'm better.


So, poor, abused Joeyfivepick, whose very name exhibits his troll-hood better than anything I could say about him, is tired of me shoving things in people's faces. Wait a sec.....

okay, I'm composed again. Could someone tell me how anything on this thread is in anyone's face? I've said it before and it bears repeating: This is a thread that I started about the Ducks. I don't go all over the board talking about the Ducks, the conversation is confined to this thread, unless someone else brings it up elsewhere. If you don't like my opinion about the Ducks, don't read this thread. It's really simple. If you like Michigan, like Pro seems to, then start a thread about Michigan.

So this guy thinks he is all that because he posted some end-of-the-year polls and some of them didn't have Oregon in them? WOW, am I ever outclassed in this conversation. I don't know what to do with myself. Wait let's see the offending quote from me again, just for reference:

The Ducks are almost always ranked in the Top 25

Wow, that is some serious shoving in people's faces. I hope everyone is okay after the bludgeoning they received by reading this quote. Please allow me to apologize for misrepresenting the facts so drastically. What I should have said was that the Ducks have been ranked in the Top 25 64% of the time since 2000, and 51.6% of the time since 1994. Is that better? Has the opressive cloud been lifted?

Now I would like someone to show me 25 teams that can say the same. Show me 25 teams that have three top 12 finishes since 2000. Show me where Iowa, BYU or Fresno have done anything this century. I understand the penchant to bring up ancient history, especially from fans of the Lions, who have never won a Superbowl and whose last championship was over 50 years ago, but my comment had more to do with the current era, you know...the one with plastic helmets and the forward pass.

I can't wait to be enlightened as to the identity of these 25+ teams.

[Phalanx]

Phalanx is right about the Ducks. I will give out credit when credit is due and this school has turned around its program. They haven't reached elite status just yet but this team is good year in and year out. They are definately a Top 25 program right now and the past few years.

They lose guys to graduation and still keep rolling. Thats when you know you are a good program. Belotti has done a nice job there and im surprised his name doesn't get mentioned more for head coaching positions.

:shock:

Wow, LN.

Re: Bellotti, I think he does want to coach in the NFL some day. He has said repeatedly though that he views any move to another college program as an unnecessary lateral move. I think he was offered or in consideration for the Notre Dame job at one point, but took his name out of the running.

[Phalanx]

WEll, I'm glad you have figured it out, because I still can't. I don't get why you are bringing up Joey on this thread and then calling me weak for talking about Joey on an actual Joey thread. I also don't get how you can follow me to a Dolphins site and then tell me I'm weak for visiting a Dolphins site. I don't know you, you are probably a good guy in person, but your posts make you look like a hypocritical piss ant. In fact, the very fact that you are still posting on this site makes you look like son of Snow Dog. I thought you took your ball and went somewhere else? What's the matter, isn't it working out over there, or did you just miss me that much?

Don't you get that this is why people wanted you off certain parts of this board? Talk about the topic instead of always pushing buttons.

:roll:

[Phalanx]

So let me get this straight.
You come to a Michigan-based forum to talk about the Ducks.
Understanding it might ruffle a feather or two.
And WE are the button pushers?

The internet is not Michigan based, it is United States based. Do you think I had the first posts about the Ducks or Joey on this site? No, I guess you wouldn't even know that, because you weren't here.

If I talked about the Ducks in a Wolverine thread that had no mention of the Ducks, then you might have an argument. If I talked about Joey on a Lions thread that had no mention of Joey, then you might have an argument.

You don't have an argument.

[Phalanx]

LOL!!!

Show me where Iowa, BYU or Fresno have done anything this century.

Ask and you shall receive:

2003 2004 2005

1. Southern California 1. Southern California 1. Texas
2. Louisiana State 2. Auburn 2. Southern California
3. Oklahoma 3. Oklahoma 3. Penn State
4. Ohio State 4. Utah 4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla) 5. Texas 5. West Virginia
6. Michigan 6. Louisville 6. Louisiana State
7. Georgia 7. Georgia 7. Virginia Tech
8. Iowa 8. Iowa 8. Alabama
9. Washington State 9. California 9. Notre Dame
10. Miami (Ohio) 10. Virginia Tech 10. Georgia
11. Forida State 11. Miami (Fla) 11. Texas Christian
12. Texas 12. Boise State 12. Florida
13. Mississippi 13. Tennessee 12. Oregon
14. Kansas State 14. Michigan 14. Auburn
15. Tennessee 15. Florida State 15. Wisconsin
16. Boise State 16. Louisiana State 16. UCLA
17. Maryland 17. Wisconsin 17. Miami (Fla)
18. Purdue 18. Texas Tech 18. Boston College
19. Nebraska 19. Arizona State 19. Louisville
20. Minnesota 20. Ohio State 20. Texas Tech
21. Utah 21. Boston College 21. Clemson
22. Clemson 22. Fresno State 22. Oklahoma
23. Bowling Green 23. Virginia 23. Florida State
24. Florida 24. Navy 24. Nebraska
25. Texas Christian 25. Pittsburgh 25. California


2000 2001 2002 2003

1. Oklahoma 1. Miami (Fla) 1. Ohio State 1. Southern California
2. Miami (Fla) 2. Oregon 2. Miami (Fla) 2. Louisiana State
3. Washington 3. Florida 3. Georgia 3. Oklahoma
4. Oregon State 4. Tennessee 4. Southern California 4. Ohio State
5. Florida State 5. Texas 5. Oklahoma 5. Miami (Fla)
6. Virginia Tech 6. Oklahoma 6. Texas 6. Michigan
7. Oregon 7. Louisiana State 7. Kansas State 7. Georgia
8. Nebraska 8. Nebraska 8. Iowa 8. Iowa
9. Kansas State 9. Colorado 9. Michigan 9. Washington State
10. Florida 10. Washington State 10. Washington State 10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Michigan 11. Maryland 11. Alabama 11. Florida State
12. Texas 12. Illinois 12. North Carolina State 12. Texas
13. Purdue 13. South Carolina 13. Maryland 13. Mississippi
14. Colorado State 14. Syracuse 14. Auburn 14. Kansas State
15. Notre Dame 15. Florida State 15. Boise State 15. Tennessee
16. Clemson 16. Stanford 16. Penn State 16. Boise State
17. Georgia Tech 17. Louisville 17. Notre Dame 17. Maryland
18. Auburn 18. Virginia Tech 18. Virginia Tech 18. Purdue
19. South Carolina 19. Washington 19. Pittsburgh 19. Nebraska
20. Georgia 20. Michigan 20. Colorado 20. Minnesota
21. Texas Christian 21. Boston College 21. Florida State 21. Utah
22. Louisiana State 22. Georgia 22. Virginia 22. Clemson
23. Wisconsin 23. Toledo 23. Texas Christian 23. Bowling Green
24. Mississippi State 24. Georgia Tech 24. Marshall 24. Florida
25. Iowa State 25. Brigham Young 25. West Virginia 25. Texas Christain



Records through Sun Nov 5, 2006
AP Top 25 Ranking
Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. Ohio State (65) (10-0) 1625 1
2. Michigan (10-0) 1554 2
3. Louisville (8-0) 1441 5
4. Texas (9-1) 1438 4
5. Auburn (9-1) 1320 6
6. Florida (8-1) 1314 7
7. USC (7-1) 1173 9
8. California (8-1) 1136 10
9. Notre Dame (8-1) 1096 11
10. West Virginia (7-1) 1024 3
11. Arkansas (8-1) 1020 12
12. LSU (7-2) 996 13
13. Tennessee (7-2) 744 8
14. Boise State (9-0) 742 14
15. Rutgers (8-0) 721 15
16. Wisconsin (9-1) 689 17
17. Oklahoma (7-2) 667 18
18. Wake Forest (8-1) 509 22
19. Georgia Tech (7-2) 493 20
20. Virginia Tech (7-2) 333 23
21. Oregon (7-2) 308 24
22. Boston College (7-2) 230 16
23. Maryland (7-2) 178 30
24. Texas A&M (8-2) 137 21
25. Brigham Young (7-2) 92 27


But best of all, YOU admit it:
Phalanx
10.1.06.2:15 am

I doubt Oregon would get screwed this year after wins over Fresno State on the road



Since you are so DESPARATE for Orygun to be considered a "Premier" team, I'm gonna help you out. What can I say, I'm a giver.

Since the definition of "premier" is "the top" we can put this under a microscope and employ the William Jefferson Clinton What's the definition of "is" is methodology.

Therefore, if we include only the "top" football programs of the 119 NCAA Division 1A Schools, using the WJC patent pending program for twisted definition and applied insanity, WE CAN INCLUDE EVERY SCHOOL BUT ONE. Since that one school is the bottom, every other school is the "top".

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL UGLY DUCKLING FANS!!!!! You can finally be considered a "premier program." You should buy Phalanx some champaign for his tireless efforts to help you with your INFERIORITY COMPLEX.



OH, by the way. If you are not looking to receive responses to your post, simply put them on your refrigerator with a magnet instead of a DETROIT LIONS WEBSITE.

I'll give you Iowa, but BYU and Fresno State...pretty weak. Fresno State is a tough place to play usually, and I thought they would be better this year, but Pat Hill has never even won the WAC outright, they still have a way to go. The funny thing about you mentioning Fresno State at all is that Hill is always saying he would like to follow Oregon's pattern of ascension. He looks up to the Ducks as his model for growth. He has yet to beat the DUcks in several tries. Even Pat Hill would never say that Fresno State is as good a program as the Ducks. Anyone who says that is a football neophite or a troll.

There was a time when Oregon and BYU were on equal footing, back in the late 80's we used to trade wins with them. There were some epic battles between Ty Detmer and Bill Musgrave that were among my first memories as a Duck fan. Good stuff. Since then however, the Ducks have risen in stature and BYU has stayed the same or gotten worse. I actually wish they were better, maybe as good as Boise State, just to raise the pool of talent in the Western States and give the Ducks and others some good teams to play. The simple fact though is that they are not good most of the time, and I think the Ducks are getting more of the Mormon talent than BYU is now (Haloti Ngata comes to mind). The fact that you brought up BYU again shows that you are not up with the times. BYU and Fresno State are not good. I'll give you Iowa, even though they got hammered by Indiana I think, and I'm glad if Iowa is good again. The Big 10 needs all the good teams it can get so that Ohio State and Michigan aren't always getting cheap, easy wins all the time.

So let's see...Iowa makes one...only 24 more to go before you win the argument! Go ahead, make me look silly. I'm quaking over here.

Until you can produce those teams though, you're just a troll trying to push buttons. I'm told there is a new site for people like that, so why are you still here?

[Phalanx]

So...do I gather that you can't come up with the teams? I guess this is your way of conceding? Ok, thanks for playing.

As I was saying, the Ducks are one of the best programs in the nation, and they will continue to spend most of their time in the top 25. Next year they will be even better, and the recruiting class is looking pretty good for the years to come as well.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=9&c=8&yr=2007

Not that I need that to be a fan, but it is nice to win.

Speaking of winning, I haven't talked at all about Saturday's win over the Huskies! I'll do that in short order.

[Phalanx]

Sorry if the link I posted doesn't work, I guess you have to have an account. It was a link to the list of recruits the Ducks have already picked up for 2007. I doubt that it rivals Michigan's or Ohio States, but it is pretty impressive all the same, and we even have verbals from some guys that USC is still trying to go after, and that Michigan offered. Things are looking up for a while.

And in that vein, I should report the 34-14 trouncing that the Ducks handed to Washington over the weekend. Dixon is still turning the ball over, but the defense was outstanding. If Oregon did not have a serious turnover problem this year, they would probably be 9-0 instead of 7-2. Hopefully, next year Dennis will learn to protect the ball a little better. A healthy Jonathan Stewart would also be nice. We are still waiting to see what this guy can do on two good ankles, but he did rush for 159 yards and two touchdowns against the Huskies. He is a sophomore this year and the sky is the limit for him next year, the main issue for him is injuries.

This Saturday is the much-anticipated USC game. The Ducks have not played well on the road this year, but after watching Joey beat the Bears, I'm ready for anything. If the Trojans lose to the Ducks, they will be in trouble. They also play Cal the next week and Notre Dame the following week. After watching a pretty weak UCLA team go in and beat up on the Irish for three quarters before handing the game to them in the 4th, I don't thinkUSC willl have a problem with Notre Dame, but I'm pretty sure Cal is going to get them.

The Ducks schedule after USC is Arizona at home, which should be a W, and Oregon State in Corvallis. The Beavers are suddenly playing very well having beaten USC and then pummelling Arizona State in the last two weeks, and this will be a difficult game for the Ducks to win. I noticed that the Beavers were actually ranked in the BCS this week as well. What a change from getting blasted by Boise State earlier in the year.

So here's to the USC game. I know you will all be watching, and so will I. Every year there is that one game that makes or breaks the season, and this one is it for the Ducks, just like Ohio State is for the Wolverines. I love this time of year.

Go Ducks!!

[Phalanx]

I'm confused...are you saying that I should edit my mention of Joey out? Is it not legitimate to bring up an unlikely win when I am talking about a similar scenario this Saturday? Have you seen me go into a conversation about Joey in this thread?

I don't like to ignore anyone, but if you don't have anything to say about the Ducks, I'm not going to respond to you further. You aren't making any points, you are just going around picking at everything and being stupid. You waste my time and the time of the other Duck fans here.

[Phalanx]

Why would anyone admit to being a Duck fan if they have your pathetic drivel to look forward to if they do? You follow me around all over this board, and then you talk about me and quote me on your new board when I'm not even there. You have Phalanx-envy or something. Why don't you just go away if you don't like the Ducks? Are you doing some kind of campaign-work to eradicate threads all over america that talk about teams you don't like?

To all the Duck fans who have made this the most-viewed thread in this forum's history, I'd like to apologize for this troll problem we are having. I'd like to say that if you ignored him he would go away, but this particular brand of troll has some kind of fixation with me so that he even goes to other boards that I am not a part of and posts about me. This was not my idea when I began this long-standing Duck thread. This thread should be a haven to all of the people seeking information about the Ducks and wanting to converse about this dynamic team. Hopefully the trolls will grow tired of their stupidity and seek professional help for their issues.

Go Ducks!!

[Proactive 1]

Not bad. Twenty-six more points and the Ducks would have beaten USC.

[Felix]

Wow...How Bout them Ducks? Finish the season at 7-5 (4-5 in the Pac 10) with a regular-season ebding defeat at the hands of your biggest rival, the Beavers, in the 110th annual Civil War game. But at least you have the....Rose...errr, no....uhhh....what Bowl was it? Oh, the high profile Las Vegas Bowl where they will have the chance to lose to BYU (10-2, #20) who are winners of 9 straight

[Proactive 1]

Let's see...that leaves the quack-quacks 'premier' football program in a 4-way tie for FIFTH place in the mighty Pac 10.

Maybe they'll get an invite to the Kiss Your Sister Bowl?

[bogartin]

9.27.06.10:36 pm
This win/loss is going to mean nothing for either one of these teams' National Championship run, however, because neither is good enough.

I guess I was close to being wrong in that statement.

[LionNation]

Ducks got spanked by a bunch of Mormons tonight, 38-8.

[Proactive 1]

That reporter hit the nail on the head. When I tuned in I thought something was wrong with my TV, but then noticed the BYU unis looked okay....as in normal.

It didn't take long to conclude Oregon was Oregone and I actually thought the final would be a lot worse than 30 points.

Maybe at least they'll wise up in the offseason and fire their Ghetto Negro uniform designer. This ain't the 'hood where style counts over substance. This is bigtime football where only thinking you look like a badass gets your ass kicked.

Nice job BYU.

[Blog]

Jets will beat Miami, take the points

[Texan4Lions]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtppIcF7hSA&NR

Even when the ducks are lucky... their still losers.

[Phalanx]

Bump

[Phalanx]

Well, everyone's favorite thread is now in its third season, and the Ducks are looking to kick the Wolverines while they are down (and I do mean down). I think both of these teams have serious question marks, but one thing is sure, the victor is going to have a good non-conference win under their belt.

All I want to know is, can we get the same refs in this game that we had last year against Oklahoma? The rest will take care of itself.

Good luck! I'll be by next week, either to gloat or to eat humble pie.

Go Ducks!

-Phalanx

[goldenlions]

How about a friendly wager? Michigan wins then this thread is locked up for good on say next Wednesday. If Oregon wins let the thread continue and Phalanx can continue to bring it up every year.

Any takers?

[Phalanx]

That's not a very good wager for me, since I already can post in this thread. I don't win anything. I think the stakes are already high enough without a wager. If the wolverines win like they are supposed to, then all of you shell-shocked Michiganites can pat yourselves on the back and think that at least you aren't as bad as the Ducks. A loss to the Ducks on the other hand would mean that a lot of people that posted stuff in this thread over the last two years are going to have to eat some serious crow.

Personally, I think the home filed advantage is too much for my team, who have a poor defense and an inconsistant QB already. I think Michigan ought to win this one. But if they lose...

Well, one can always hope.

Go Ducks!

[goldenlions]

It's just a stupid thread...geez...

[Phalanx]

The problem, golden, is that this thread is more likely to be locked if the Ducks WIN, not if they lose.

[RussMan]

The problem, golden, is that this thread is more likely to be locked if the Ducks WIN, not if they lose.

it will be open win or lose..

[Felix]

The problem, golden, is that this thread is more likely to be locked if the Ducks WIN, not if they lose.


And you got this idea based on the high volume of locked threads? lol...Look, if you don't want to bet golden, just say so, don't make excuses that put others to blame

[Phalanx]

And you got this idea based on the high volume of locked threads? lol...Look, if you don't want to bet golden, just say so, don't make excuses that put others to blame

I always assume that people understand what I am leaving unsaid....and then Felix posts and I realize they have no clue. Or maybe Felix just has no clue. Anyway, what I meant was that if the Ducks win, I will be so insufferable about it that someone will be forced to intervene and lock the thread. It was more of a joke than anything. Thanks for playing though Felix, your interaction is always so profitable.

[Felix]

Wow...who was it you said has no clue? Perhaps if you didn't have such a high opinion of yourself, you would see that my post addressed your ridiculous assurtion (kidding or otherwise) of the thread being locked because of the mighty ducks...Geezus...talk about egomaniacal...get over yourself Phalanx, you are not the smartest man alive...And thanks for playing to you as well, Phalanx, your interaction has been worthwhile to show that you indeed, have no clue.

[Phalanx]

Well, as I always say, no thread is complete without Felix calling me an egomaniac and arguing with one of my 'assurtions'. I guess we can all rest easy once again and enjoy the game. :)

Have a nice weekend, Felix. Go Ducks!

[Felix]

:sleepy1:



Oh, oops, I had a speling errer....dam, just ignor everything I said...it is meeningless sinse I spelt won word wrong...





And thanks Phalanx...you have a good weekend as well :wave:

[Texan4Lions]

Michiganders... please... I'm a Texan and even I know there called Michiganders and not Michiganites. If your going to rub shit in atleast have the decency to call them by their true name.:love4:

[RussMan]

I always assume that people understand what I am leaving unsaid....and then Felix posts and I realize they have no clue. Or maybe Felix just has no clue. Anyway, what I meant was that if the Ducks win, I will be so insufferable about it that someone will be forced to intervene and lock the thread. It was more of a joke than anything. Thanks for playing though Felix, your interaction is always so profitable.


Couple of things. First Golden is writing checks he cant cash by offering a bet where this thread might be locked as a result of some wager you guys might have. You can't bet with the houses money .... LOL.

Second, what Felix is saying is take a look around.... how many locked thread do you see? Good luck finding them...there aren't many.

If the thread or posts are about football etc no problems, if it gets personal then posts could be edited or deleted.

No personal attacks. Be halfway decent and we can all have some fun.

Shoot me over a PM if you have any questions.

:occasion14:

[Phalanx]

Michiganders... please... I'm a Texan and even I know there called Michiganders and not Michiganites. If your going to rub shit in atleast have the decency to call them by their true name.:love4:

Well as long as the refs from up there keep calling us Ory gone, I guess I will continue to say Michiganites.

[Phalanx]

Couple of things. First Golden is writing checks he cant cash by offering a bet where this thread might be locked as a result of some wager you guys might have. You can't bet with the houses money .... LOL.

Second, what Felix is saying is take a look around.... how many locked thread do you see? Good luck finding them...there aren't many.

If the thread or posts are about football etc no problems, if it gets personal then posts could be edited or deleted.

No personal attacks. Be halfway decent and we can all have some fun.

Shoot me over a PM if you have any questions.

:occasion14:

I really wasn't worried about getting locked, it was just a joke that nobody seemed to get. I guess I should be used to that by now.

Anyway, the Ducks won in convincing fashion, and I would just like to say that we had a really fun home and home with you guys and anytime you want to schedule another one, just let us know. :love8:

My main concern at this point is that this victory will not be considered a quality road win; it could contribute to the criticism that we have encountered over the past several years that we schedule non-conference games that are too easy. I can just see Colin Cowherd at the end of the season saying, "Who have they beaten? You don't deserve a BCS game." Oh well, we get SC at home this year, maybe we can pull off the upset.

Hopefully Michigan pulls out of the funk and beats some Big 10 teams this year.

[Felix]

I really wasn't worried about getting locked, it was just a joke that nobody seemed to get. I guess I should be used to that by now.

Don't worry, we're used to you trying and failing to be funny...but it's good you are now realizing it and getting used to it

[Phalanx]

Everybody's a critic. Don't you have some rocks to look at or something?

Anyway, after watching the Wolverines and the response of the fans on Saturday, I've been thinking about some possible solutions to the problems they are encountering this season. See if any of these will work:

Top 10 Measures Michigan and their fans should take to restore their dominance in football:

10. The fans should try booing earlier in the game. They waited until the middle of the first quarter in this game, and I really didn't think that was early enough to do any good.

9. UM should try scheduling at least one Div 1-AA school to get that automatic win...oh wait...never mind.

8. Fans could try wearing orange to the next game in protest. I've heard that does a lot of good, especially if you want to get someone fired.

7. The coaches should try looking at tape from the sixties to figure out how to properly defend the Statue of Liberty play. I'm pretty sure letting the QB walk into the endzone isn't how they used to do it.

6. Does Tom Brady have any eligibility left?

5. The players should have a series of team meetings this week, that always works.

4. Coaches should implement the West Coast offense, which as we know has won more Superbowls than any other offense in history.

3. Fans should attend practices and boo the quarterback the first time he throws an incomplete pass.

2. Schedule more series with Pac-10 teams. We all know they don't play any defense out there and are helpless when facing a ball-control-type offense.

and the #1 adjustment that UM should make to restore their college football dominance:

1. Try changing up the uniforms once in a while!!

[Vic Turner]

11. The quarterback should be sacked at least 6 times and throw an INT is his first game.

[lionbatcher]

Looks like Phalanx is again the victor. I'm starting to see a pattern............

[Blog]

Everybody's a critic. Don't you have some rocks to look at or something?

Anyway, after watching the Wolverines and the response of the fans on Saturday, I've been thinking about some possible solutions to the problems they are encountering this season. See if any of these will work:

Top 10 Measures Michigan and their fans should take to restore their dominance in football:

10. The fans should try booing earlier in the game. They waited until the middle of the first quarter in this game, and I really didn't think that was early enough to do any good.

9. UM should try scheduling at least one Div 1-AA school to get that automatic win...oh wait...never mind.

8. Fans could try wearing orange to the next game in protest. I've heard that does a lot of good, especially if you want to get someone fired.

7. The coaches should try looking at tape from the sixties to figure out how to properly defend the Statue of Liberty play. I'm pretty sure letting the QB walk into the endzone isn't how they used to do it.

6. Does Tom Brady have any eligibility left?

5. The players should have a series of team meetings this week, that always works.

4. Coaches should implement the West Coast offense, which as we know has won more Superbowls than any other offense in history.

3. Fans should attend practices and boo the quarterback the first time he throws an incomplete pass.

2. Schedule more series with Pac-10 teams. We all know they don't play any defense out there and are helpless when facing a ball-control-type offense.

and the #1 adjustment that UM should make to restore their college football dominance:

1. Try changing up the uniforms once in a while!!


Simplify it, Just get rid of Carr

[def]

Looks like Phalanx is again the victor. I'm starting to see a pattern............

If he gave up on Joey - he'd be undefeated!

[Murtyle]

If he gave up on Joey - he'd be undefeated!

Or when he called Olashansky and Sammy Parker future Hall of Famers or when he implied that Oregon puts more players in the NFL or when he said that Oregon specialized in QBs...

Those are off the top of my head... But other than that he's won... umm... what?

[Phalanx]

Or when he called Olashansky and Sammy Parker future Hall of Famers or when he implied that Oregon puts more players in the NFL or when he said that Oregon specialized in QBs...

Those are off the top of my head... But other than that he's won... umm... what?

I don't recall saying they would be HOFers, if I did it was in jest. Regarding Oregon quarterbacks....we are a small state population-wise, but 3 QB's from Oregon started in the NFL on Sunday, including two former Ducks. Every starting University of Oregon QB in my lifetime has at least made an NFL roster for a season, how many schools can say that? I think you need to admit that Oregon has historically been a good QB school, and it looks like we will be sending Dennis Dixon to the NFL after this year as well, unless he opts for baseball. Who do you think will be drafted higher, Dixon or Chad Henne? Anyone care to make a friendly wager on that?

[Phalanx]

If he gave up on Joey - he'd be undefeated!

Ahh Joey, my Achilles heel.

I'll give up on Joey when he plays on a GOOD team and still loses. So far, he has been on the crappiest teams in the NFL. Watch if Leftwich gets a chance to play and see if he does any better for the Falcons than Joey is doing. After watching Leftwich play in the preseason, I highly doubt it.

[def]

Yeah because it is the Lions, Dolphins and Falcons fault for how much he sucks and has nothing to do with him.


Whatever SasQuatch, Joey is a girly man, he couldn't take the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl, and the only reason he is still in the damn league is because Vick is a thug, if Vick liked animals, he would be playing with CRog in Toronto or some s h it .

[Phalanx]

Yeah, I guess us Oregon homers are the only ones who think Joey is not the problem.

http://www.macon.com/sports/columnists/story/138552.html

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7194450?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

[Murtyle]

I don't recall saying they would be HOFers, if I did it was in jest. Regarding Oregon quarterbacks....we are a small state population-wise, but 3 QB's from Oregon started in the NFL on Sunday, including two former Ducks. Every starting University of Oregon QB in my lifetime has at least made an NFL roster for a season, how many schools can say that? I think you need to admit that Oregon has historically been a good QB school, and it looks like we will be sending Dennis Dixon to the NFL after this year as well, unless he opts for baseball. Who do you think will be drafted higher, Dixon or Chad Henne? Anyone care to make a friendly wager on that?

Future Pro Bowlers is what I meant to say...

I can't remember the last QB that Mich. had that didn't make an NFL roster... Drew Henson made one and he took a few years off to play baseball... I don't know where you are going with that...

If thats your specialty then so be it... Hang your hat on it... Its pretty pathetic though....

[LionNation]

Petrino: Harrington holding ball too long as sacks mount

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (AP) - Joey Harrington, who has been sacked 13 times in his first two starts for the Falcons, was feeling more heat on Monday - this time from his coach.

Bobby Petrino said it's not fair to blame the offensive line for the high sack totals - including seven in Sunday's 13-7 loss at Jacksonville.
Petrino said Harrington is holding the ball too long.

"I think right now Joey is playing a little bit conservative, a little bit not to throw the interception," Petrino said. "Therefore it is causing him to hold the ball. He just needs to open it up more with confidence and play to go win the game."

Coach Petrino not afraid to lay the blame where it is due.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7236974?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

[Phalanx]

Future Pro Bowlers is what I meant to say...

I can't remember the last QB that Mich. had that didn't make an NFL roster... Drew Henson made one and he took a few years off to play baseball... I don't know where you are going with that...

If thats your specialty then so be it... Hang your hat on it... Its pretty pathetic though....

I'm sorry, this makes me laugh. Michigan fan is telling me how pathetic my team is. Does something seem wrong with this picture?

Michigan fan: "Oregon sucks!! They don't hold a candle to the mighty Wolverines!"

Phalanx: "Yes, that's what I keep hearing, but somehow Oregon managed to win the last two meetings..."

Michigan fan" "Oh yeah? Well Joey Harrington sucks!!"

Phalanx: "???"

Reporter: "Coach Carr, how to you respond to the calls for your dismissal after losing to a 1-AA school and then getting killed by Oregon?"

Lloyd Carr: "Well, I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Joey Harrington sucks!!"

[Blog]

Facts:

Comparing Joey Harrington and this Michigan team is illogical.

Joey Harrington sucks, this is objectively indisputable

Michigan is being held back by the coaching staff

Michigan has sent numerous talented QB's to the NFL, Oregon has not.

[Phalanx]

I think you need to check your facts. Two quarterbacks from Oregon are in the NFL Hall of Fame. Two started on Sunday. How many Wolverine QB's are in Canton? How many are starting in the NFL right now? Besides Tom Brady, who is from California, which talented QB's are we talking about? Just curious. Where are all of these awesome QB's you mentioned?

[Blog]

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=537412

Welcome to the firm of Brady, Griese & Grbac, otherwise known as the new Quarterback U.
Forget about Miami. Ann Arbor, Mich., has become the Ivy League for aspiring NFL quarterbacks.

Brainpower, pressure and competition are some of the ingredients necessary to be a successful professional quarterback, and they're all found at Michigan.

"It's like going to law school," said Scot Loeffler, a former Michigan quarterback and now the Wolverines' quarterbacks coach. "You're going to be asked to do a lot mentally."

Any school that sports a two-time Super Bowl MVP can stake a claim to producing top-notch quarterbacks, but Michigan's track record goes beyond the New England Patriots' Tom Brady.



Michigan quarterbacks are asked to use their heads as much as their arms
A Pro Bowl selection in 2000, Brian Griese has started 72 of 75 career games with Denver, Miami and Tampa Bay. He signed with Chicago this offseason.

Todd Collins started 13 games for Buffalo in 1997 before becoming a career backup with Kansas City and now Washington. John Navarre and Drew Henson are also on NFL rosters as backups.

Ex-Michigan quarterbacks Elvis Grbac and Jim Harbaugh, who each appeared in a Pro Bowl, retired after the 2001 season.

And the other Quarterback U?

Miami sent Vinny Testaverde, Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly, Steve Walsh and Craig Erickson to the NFL during the 1980s and early '90s.

But after Testaverde's retirement this offseason, Ken Dorsey and Brock Berlin are the only former Hurricanes quarterbacks on NFL rosters.

"There is a proven path to the NFL by going to Michigan," Harbaugh — now coach at the University of San Diego — said. "Sometimes even the backup will become an NFL quarterback. There's a proven quarterback track record there."

By the time Navarre joined the program in 1999, Harbaugh, Grbac and Griese were starting in the NFL and Brady was a year removed from leading Michigan to a Big Ten title.

"You want to go to a school that has done well at your position," Navarre said. "I looked at all of those guys. That was a big influence. They put a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL."


Position: Quarterback
School that rules: Michigan (Tom Brady, Todd Collins, Scott Dreisbach, Elvis Grbac, Brian Griese, Drew Henson, John Navarre).
Coming attractions: Chad Henne.
Runners-up: Boston College (Doug Flutie, Matt Hasselbeck, Tim Hasselbeck, Brian St. Pierre); East Carolina (Jeff Blake, David Garrard); Purdue (Drew Brees, Kyle Orton) Southern Cal (Matt Cassel, Rob Johnson, Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer, Rodney Peete); Tulane (Shaun King, J.P. Losman, Patrick Ramsey); Washington (Mark Brunell, Chris Chandler, Brock Huard, Cody Pickett, Marques Tuiasosopo); Wherever Jeff Tedford is coaching (Kyle Boller and Aaron Rodgers at Cal, Joey Harrington, A.J. Feeley, Akili Smith at Oregon and David Carr, Trent Dilfer and Billy Volek at Fresno State).
Sleeper schools: Marshall. The Thundering Herd has been in Division I-A just nine years, but placed two starting quarterbacks in the NFL. The Jets' Chad Pennington was the 18th overall draft pick in 2000, and the Jaguars' Byron Leftwich was the seventh overall pick in 2003. When healthy, both have become dependable options. The problem is keeping them on the field. Pennington has played only 26 games the last three seasons. Leftwich missed six games due to injury in 2005.
Why Michigan is Quarterback U: This UM knocked the other one off the perch of Quarterback U. Why? Miami's last three quarterbacks to play in the NFL are Ken Dorsey, Scott Covington and Gino Torretta. Not very inspiring. The Wolverines, on the other hand, produced three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady, Pro Bowlers Brian Griese and Elvis Grbac, who retired in 2001, and backups John Navarre, Drew Henson and Todd Collins. All but one Wolverines starter since Grbac in 1989 has started a game in the NFL. Jim Harbaugh, the most decorated Michigan quarterback while in college, misses this list after taking his last NFL snap in 2000 before retiring in 2001.
Michigan's quarterback tradition started at the end of the Bo Schembechler era in 1990 when the Wolverines put aside the run-first, option attack for a pro-style offense.
The result: Nearly every quarterback one-ups the previous signal-caller.

It took 92 years of Michigan football for quarterback Steve Smith to become the first Wolverine to crack 600 career passes in 1983. Since then, five Wolverines topped 700 attempts. Navarre, the starter from 2001-03, holds the record with 1,366. Henne is on pace to pass him with 781 attempts in two seasons as a starter.

"What's amazing is that every single year, the record book is re-written," Loeffler said. "The bar is set so high that the next guy has to live up to that. That player has to rewrite the record book. That's why they succeed."

That's also why the Michigan quarterback plays one of the highest-pressure positions in college sports.

Despite setting several Michigan single-season and career passing records, Navarre drew the ire of fans until he led the Wolverines to a Big Ten title in 2003.

"Michigan's quarterback is one of the highest scrutinized positions in the state," Navarre said. "If you can't perform, you can't play there."

In the NFL, the ex-Wolverines have been no stranger to similar pressure. Brady was thrust into starting duty and led the Patriots to the first of his three Super Bowl titles when Drew Bledsoe was injured in 2001. Griese and Collins each followed Hall of Famers in their first season as starters.

"It's been a trend that they compete like heck," said Loeffler, who was the backup to Collins in 1995. "There are not very many places where the pressure and expectations are that high."

While shotgun formations and spread options have become the trend in college football, the Michigan offense has kept the quarterback under center and aims for a 50-50 split between running and passing.

Since 1998 when Brady was the starter, Michigan has passed the ball 45.3 percent of the time.

"We have played a pro-style offense for a long time here," said Mike DeBord, who began his second stint as Michigan's offensive coordinator this spring. "We have a healthy balance of run and pass, and quarterbacks are forced to learn all the fundamentals and subtleties of dropping back. That puts them ahead of the game when they get to the NFL."

It hasn't translated to draft-day success yet. Collins, taken by the Bills in the second round in 1995, was the highest draft pick since Harbaugh. The Chicago Bears took Harbaugh with the 26th pick in the first round in 1987.

Griese was a third-round pick. Brady was a sixth-round pick. Henson, who played two seasons of professional baseball, also went in the sixth round.

As far as future Michigan quarterbacks in the draft, Loeffler knows the next one will be a safe pick.

"History has proven that they have a great track record," Loeffler said. "One thing you know is that they are going to be fundamentally sound, know the game inside and out and will be able to handle pressure."

[def]

*puts out dick, yes mine is bigger, so pay up...

[Blog]

I mean have a conversation about the teams now and you have to pull out Dan Fouts and Norm Van Brocklin? What does that mean? You should have talked about that Cuckoo Ken Kesey or about that shell game creator of the Roth IRA- William Roth, or how about the fight guy Chuck Palahniuk or even the other Boyle...Tim; but these other guys have no relevance.

[Phalanx]

I've actually read that article before. Basically, Tom Brady, a couple of journeymen and a bunch of back-ups. I'm not saying that's bad, what I am saying is that if it's good for Michigan, it's also good for Oregon. Chris Miller was a pro-Bowl QB, Bill Musgrave a back-up who is now QB coach in Atlanta, Tony Graziani was a back-up who now plays in Canada. A.J. Feeley has been a starter, and Joey and Kellen Clemens are starting right now. There are no Tom Bradys in the bunch, but other than him, there really isn't much difference, and Oregon has the edge currently. Both schools regularly send their multi-year starters to the NFL, and Oregon's start more games.

[Murtyle]

The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins (860) and winning percentage (.745).[52] The team won the first Rose Bowl game in 1902, and has the longest current streak of consecutive bowl game appearances. The last year in which UM did not appear in a bowl was 1974, which was also the last season in which Big Ten teams other than the champion were not eligible for bowls; UM's last losing season was in 1967. The Wolverines have won a record 42 Big Ten championships, including five in the past decade. The program has eleven national championships, most recently in 1997,[53] and has produced three Heisman Trophy winners: Tom Harmon, Desmond Howard and Charles Woodson.[54]

Michigan Stadium is the largest college football-only stadium in the world, with an official capacity of more than 107,501 (the extra seat is said to be "reserved" for Fritz Crisler[) though attendance—frequently over 111,000 spectators—regularly exceeds the official capacity.[56] The NCAA's record-breaking attendance has become commonplace at Michigan Stadium, especially since the arrival of head coach Bo Schembechler.

The men's ice hockey team, which plays at Yost Ice Arena, has won nine national championships, while the men's basketball team, which plays at Crisler Arena, has appeared in four Final Fours and won a national championship in 1989.

Through the 2004 Summer Olympic Games, 178 UM students and coaches had participated in the Olympics, winning medals in every Summer Olympics except 1896, and winning gold medals in all but four Olympiads. UM students have won a total of 116 Olympic medals: 54 gold, 27 silver, and 35 bronze

If U of M were a country they would rank 31st in medal count...

Michigan ranks 8th in total National Championships... 6th in the major sports... Oregon isn't close....

We have 4 pro bowlers in QBs, you have 2.. Our QBs own 3 Super Bowls you have none...

But go ahead and crow about setting the world record for different combinations of the same ugly uniforms, 2 wins over us and a QB who can't lead a team to a winning season if it changed the perception of piano playing pretty boys for eternity...

Like I said, move on...

[Phalanx]

Stadium size? Ice hockey team? Olympic medals? How is this information relevant to a college football thread? Talk about a red herring. You get killed in football, so you start talking about the dominance of your ice hockey team, or the color of the Ducks uniforms. Funny stuff.

And let's get one thing straight. The only crowing I am doing is that my team has kicked the snot out of your team in the last two meetings. The other stuff was a response to someone trying to say that the Ducks QB's have not been good in the NFL. Not a reflection on Michigan, except that our average QB is at least as good in the NFL as yours.

Thanks for all that trivia about Michigan though. Good stuff.

[Blog]

Stadium size? Ice hockey team? Olympic medals? How is this information relevant to a college football thread? Talk about a red herring. You get killed in football, so you start talking about the dominance of your ice hockey team, or the color of the Ducks uniforms. Funny stuff.

And let's get one thing straight. The only crowing I am doing is that my team has kicked the snot out of your team in the last two meetings. The other stuff was a response to someone trying to say that the Ducks QB's have not been good in the NFL. Not a reflection on Michigan, except that our average QB is at least as good in the NFL as yours.

Thanks for all that trivia about Michigan though. Good stuff.

And you giving an example of your great QB Norm Van Brocklin in 1948 is relevant to today's game?

[Phalanx]

Facts:

Michigan has sent numerous talented QB's to the NFL, Oregon has not.

It's like nobody in Detroit can follow a strain of linear thought. I was responding to this quote, I blew this assertion out of the water, and still I am subject to this idiotic diatribe from some other guy who hasn't been following along. Is it any wonder that Joey wanted out of Detroit so bad that he gave up an $8 million contract? Sheesh!

I take it all back. You win. Michigan rules and the ducks are just a second rate team, and the last two meetings were just two strange coincidental flukes right in a row.

On to the next game.

[Murtyle]

And let's get one thing straight. The only crowing I am doing is that my team has kicked the snot out of your team in the last two meetings. The other stuff was a response to someone trying to say that the Ducks QB's have not been good in the NFL. Not a reflection on Michigan, except that our average QB is at least as good in the NFL as yours.


Like I said crow away about:

setting the world record for different combinations of the same ugly uniforms, 2 wins over us and a QB who can't lead a team to a winning season if it changed the perception of piano playing pretty boys for eternity...

I'll crow about National Championships, Conference Championships and Olympic Medals....

Just so you know your place in the hierarchy of college athletic programs...

Also It looks like you missed where I addressed your misinformation about the comparison in QBs...

We have 4 pro bowlers in QBs, you have 2.. Our QBs own 3 Super Bowls you have none...

You claim 2 starting QBs in this league... Yet you leave out that 1 is due to suspension and the other is due to injury... Give me a break...

[Murtyle]

I'm sorry, this makes me laugh. Michigan fan is telling me how pathetic my team is. Does something seem wrong with this picture?

Michigan fan: "Oregon sucks!! They don't hold a candle to the mighty Wolverines!"

Phalanx: "Yes, that's what I keep hearing, but somehow Oregon managed to win the last two meetings..."

Michigan fan" "Oh yeah? Well Joey Harrington sucks!!"

Phalanx: "???"

Reporter: "Coach Carr, how to you respond to the calls for your dismissal after losing to a 1-AA school and then getting killed by Oregon?"

Lloyd Carr: "Well, I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Joey Harrington sucks!!"


Oh and I was replying to this.... Which was in reply to my assertion that its pathetic to say that your specialty is as un-important as the your Ducks QB NFL resume..

[LAW]

Is it any wonder that Joey wanted out of Detroit so bad that he gave up an $8 million contract? Sheesh!

And how has the moved worked out for him?

[Blog]

It's like nobody in Detroit can follow a strain of linear thought. I was responding to this quote, I blew this assertion out of the water, and still I am subject to this idiotic diatribe from some other guy who hasn't been following along. Is it any wonder that Joey wanted out of Detroit so bad that he gave up an $8 million contract? Sheesh!

I take it all back. You win. Michigan rules and the ducks are just a second rate team, and the last two meetings were just two strange coincidental flukes right in a row.

On to the next game.

I am following:
1. You bring up Norm Van Brocklin
2 I discount your assertion
3. You proceed to attack the person (Blog)

[Phalanx]

Like I said crow away about:



I'll crow about National Championships, Conference Championships and Olympic Medals....

Just so you know your place in the hierarchy of college athletic programs...

Also It looks like you missed where I addressed your misinformation about the comparison in QBs...



You claim 2 starting QBs in this league... Yet you leave out that 1 is due to suspension and the other is due to injury... Give me a break...

That's cool, man. You can crow about other sports and stuff all you want. And if Brian Griese was once a pro-bowler, you can brag about that too, even if he has been cut and can't even seem to get the start over Rex Grossman now.

As for Joey, he is currently the 15th rated QB in the NFL, despite playing for a terrible team. He has started around 70 games in his 5+ year career....I'd say that makes him a starter in the NFL.

P.S. Congrats on the win over Penn State, maybe they will win the conference again. Good thing you don't have USC in your conference, kinda runs up those conference victories, doesn't it?

[Phalanx]

moving on...

Oregon survives a scare in the first half from Stanford and cruises to victory and a #11 ranking. Huge season-defining game against Cal this week. We will find out this week if the Ducks are a good team or if they will begin their yearly nose-dive.

[Blog]

moving on...

Oregon survives a scare in the first half from Stanford and cruises to victory and a #11 ranking. Huge season-defining game against Cal this week. We will find out this week if the Ducks are a good team or if they will begin their yearly nose-dive.

The Ducks do look good this year

[Phalanx]

Huge game for the Ducks on Saturday against USC. After watching Jonathan Smith go off for 251 yards against UW last week, the Trojans have promised to stop the run and force Dixon to pass. I think this is a good strategy because the Ducks are severely depleted in the Wide receiver department. This is not the same WR corps that gave Michigan's DB's such problems, those guys are out for the year. We are still not sure if these new receivers can spread the field the way this offense asks them to because Jonathan carried so much of the load last week. The Ducks are now starting a true freshman, a little 5-11 white guy with good hands, but not terribly fast.

Anyway, tough game, but still winnable. If Stanford can do it, then so can the Ducks.

[Phalanx]

it is true that this is a down year for the wloverines, but lets be sensical: the ducks arent in the same class as the 'rines.

too bad for you.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cm0jCiLv9Ds

Found a cool video on youtube I wanted to share. Hope Dennis can play like this against USC this weekend.

Go Ducks!

[LAW]

I think its going to be a good game, USC hasn't been playing well lately (I include the ND game), plus it seems like teams have trouble playing at Eugine, so if the Ducks are going to do it, this weekend is the game.

[Phalanx]

Well, sportsfans, in case you missed it, Oregon beat USC this Saturday in a 24-17 defensive struggle. A lot of USC fans on the Duck board saying that we wouldn't have a 100 yard rusher in the game...and they were almost right, but Jonathan Stewart ekes out 103 yards and two touchdowns. Good game, Ducks led pretty much the whole way.

I took a lot of heat in this thread (from people whose posts have since mysteriously disappeared) for saying that the Ducks were not expected to do well partly because their schedule included playing most of the best teams in the conference on the road. Well, this season, the opposite is true. USC and Arizona State both have to come here, and I think that makes all the difference. If we had played USC in LA. this game might have been a different story.

Anyway, there is joy in Duckville, even though we didn't move up in the polls at all and are still mired at #5 in the BCS standings below undefeated teams with cupcake schedules. I am already preparing myself for the possibility that the Ducks win out and end up playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl while Ohio State goes to the BCS. I know this wouldn't happen because it would mean a third loss for Michigan, but it just sounds like a scenario that would happen to the ducks, and then they would probably lose the game on top of it.

Anyway, a very big game this week against #4 ASU. This is the second week in a row that the Ducks are hosting the most important game in the nation. Need a win here.

Incidently, I invite anyone to check out the polls and note the strength of schedule for the top teams. Nobody even comes close to Oregon's. I predict that if we win this week, we vault past LSU as well into at least third place. Probably they will pass us again if they win the SEC championship game.

Go Ducks and go wolverines!

[Phalanx]

Tomorrow's the big game! Are the Ducks headed for big things or not? Can't wait.

Found a new favorite video you guys might like:

http://stage6.divx.com/user/duckvideo/video/1636161/The-Oregon-Ducks-at-Michigan

Go Ducks!!

go wolverines!

[LAW]

Very big game for the Ducks, probably the toughest of the year IMO.

[bogartin]

Good luck to the Ducks against Az St. The Ducks have looked very impressive this season. I've heard there is a chance that things could work out to where we see a Oregon/Oklahoma rematch in a bowl game.

[LAW]

Nice win by the Ducks...but get screwed in BCS - thought they would be #2 instead of LSU.

[LionNation]

Ducks have to hope for Michigan to beat Ohio St. most likely. Which possibly could happen in Ann Arbor.

I don't know if LSU will lose again but its possible. If LSU loses another game could be looking at a Oregon/ Oklahoma matchup in the championship game. What a lousy matchup that would be for the nation to watch.

I guess if i had to pick the best two teams to meet it would be Oregon vs. LSU.

[RussMan]

Ducks have to hope for Michigan to beat Ohio St. most likely. Which possibly could happen in Ann Arbor.

I don't know if LSU will lose again but its possible. If LSU loses another game could be looking at a Oregon/ Oklahoma matchup in the championship game. What a lousy matchup that would be for the nation to watch.

I guess if i had to pick the best two teams to meet it would be Oregon vs. LSU.

LSU keeps dodging the bullet. I want to see the bucks and the ducks... the two best teams.

Great offense vs Great defense.. let the chips fall!

[LAW]

What about Kansas...the only other undefeated team?

[goldenlions]

If Oregon and LSU win out, and OSU as well. Then LSU-OSU championship. Reason LSU is 12-1 compared to Oregon 11-1. The extra win will elavate them above Oregon.

Oregon needs Michigan to beat OSU. Funny huh?

[LionNation]

What about Kansas...the only other undefeated team?

If they go undefeated and dont get in the coach may eat some BCS voters.

http://thefeed.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/mangino_t450.jpg

[Phalanx]

Wow, that's a lotta coach right there.

So Duck fans, as you know, the Ducks handily beat their second top 10 team in as many weeks. It wasn't enough to pass LSU though because the tigers beat the #1 team in the country the last three weeks in a row, so the Ducks can't possibly pass them. Looks like the Rose Bowl against whichever team loses between Kansas and Oklahoma. Or maybe, if we're really lucky, we'll get Hawaii. Woohoo!

Anyway, Dixon does seem to be in the driver's seat for the Heisman so far which is kinda cool. Haven't had this much hype since Joey was here. A lot of people speculating on what kind of pro prospect Dennis would be. Personally, I think he's a better passer that Vince Young by quite a bit, but he isn't as big and I'm not sure if he could take a hit too well. I think a lot of his game would be taken away in the NFL by the speed of the pro game. Still, with the shortage on good QB's in the league, it isn't going out on a limb to say that he will get a shot somewhere. PLease ask Millen not to draft him though; I don't want to go through that again.

Most people like Jonathan Stewart as a pro prospect better than Dixon, and I can't say that I disagree. Jonathan is going to be a good NFL power back IMO.

We have a bye this week, which means that I might have to watch a Big 10 game instead. Nah, I'll probably just look at the rain outside for two and a half hours. A little more exciting.

I'm curious how announcers in the Big 10 try to make the game exciting for listeners:

"Mike Hart gets the handoff from Henne and...HE BUSTS THROUGH THE HUGE HOLE FOR A FOUR YARD GAIN! HE JUST COULD GO ALL THE WAY FOR FIVE YARDS!!!! GO CRAZY, FOLKS!!"

Actually, I'm glad Michigan was able to pull out that win on Saturday, it really helps the Ducks. I wonder how it feels for Michigan to know that they are working for the Ducks. Will that give them extra motivation to beat Ohio State? :)

Ducks play a week from Thursday at Arizona. Maybe LSU or Ohio State will have lost by then and Oklahoma will have leapt over the Ducks into second by virtue of their amazing win over Baylor, or whichever titan of the Big 12 they're playing this week.

Go DUCKS!
GO WOLVERINES!!

[goldenlions]

Wow, that's a lotta coach right there.

So Duck fans, as you know, the Ducks handily beat their second top 10 team in as many weeks. It wasn't enough to pass LSU though because the tigers beat the #1 team in the country the last three weeks in a row, so the Ducks can't possibly pass them. Looks like the Rose Bowl against whichever team loses between Kansas and Oklahoma. Or maybe, if we're really lucky, we'll get Hawaii. Woohoo!

Anyway, Dixon does seem to be in the driver's seat for the Heisman so far which is kinda cool. Haven't had this much hype since Joey was here. A lot of people speculating on what kind of pro prospect Dennis would be. Personally, I think he's a better passer that Vince Young by quite a bit, but he isn't as big and I'm not sure if he could take a hit too well. I think a lot of his game would be taken away in the NFL by the speed of the pro game. Still, with the shortage on good QB's in the league, it isn't going out on a limb to say that he will get a shot somewhere. PLease ask Millen not to draft him though; I don't want to go through that again.

Most people like Jonathan Stewart as a pro prospect better than Dixon, and I can't say that I disagree. Jonathan is going to be a good NFL power back IMO.

We have a bye this week, which means that I might have to watch a Big 10 game instead. Nah, I'll probably just look at the rain outside for two and a half hours. A little more exciting.

I'm curious how announcers in the Big 10 try to make the game exciting for listeners:

"Mike Hart gets the handoff from Henne and...HE BUSTS THROUGH THE HUGE HOLE FOR A FOUR YARD GAIN! HE JUST COULD GO ALL THE WAY FOR FIVE YARDS!!!! GO CRAZY, FOLKS!!"

Actually, I'm glad Michigan was able to pull out that win on Saturday, it really helps the Ducks. I wonder how it feels for Michigan to know that they are working for the Ducks. Will that give them extra motivation to beat Ohio State? :)

Ducks play a week from Thursday at Arizona. Maybe LSU or Ohio State will have lost by then and Oklahoma will have leapt over the Ducks into second by virtue of their amazing win over Baylor, or whichever titan of the Big 12 they're playing this week.

Go DUCKS!
GO WOLVERINES!!

I believe the only motivation for Michigan now is to win against Wisconsin and Ohio State and salvage a season after losing to App St and Oregon and still make it to the Rose Bowl.

I believe, I could be wrong since I don't follow college as much as pro, but if Michigan wins out and that would make them Big Ten champs. And doesn't the B10 champs automatically get the berth in the Rose Bowl unless they are going to the National Championship game?

And in the college game, I would take Hart anyday over Stewart.

[Phalanx]

Good luck to the Ducks against Az St. The Ducks have looked very impressive this season. I've heard there is a chance that things could work out to where we see a Oregon/Oklahoma rematch in a bowl game.

Bogartin, I think Oklahoma is prety good this year, but after last year's debacle with the officials, Oklahoma is the last team I want to play. You are a pretty civil guy, but some of your fans are totally insufferable and did their best to make life miserable for any Duck they met. There is even an account of a guy taking his daughter trick-or-treating the other day and the Sooner fan wouldn't give her any candy because her dad had a ducks hat on. He said he didn't give candy to cheaters. The father of the girl said he thanked the guy for the Duck's 10-1 season in 2005 because the loss to the Sooners in the Holiday Bowl has been nullified because of.....cheating. Funny stuff.

Anyway, I don't know who I'd like to play, but definitely not the Sooners. Had enough of them for a long while. Besides, I heard Boise State is hoping to have a Fiesta Bowl rematch with them. I wouldn't want to get in the way of that.

Most people I talk to are hoping for LSU, but I would like the chance to take a crack at that vaunted Ohio State defense I've heard so much about. West Virginia is also a possibility. That would be a fun game to watch at least.

[Phalanx]

I believe the only motivation for Michigan now is to win against Wisconsin and Ohio State and salvage a season after losing to App St and Oregon and still make it to the Rose Bowl.

I believe, I could be wrong since I don't follow college as much as pro, but if Michigan wins out and that would make them Big Ten champs. And doesn't the B10 champs automatically get the berth in the Rose Bowl unless they are going to the National Championship game?

And in the college game, I would take Hart anyday over Stewart.

If Michigan did win out, they would go to the Rose Bowl, but I doubt that they would see the Ducks there. The Ducks would either win out and go to the BCS game by virtue of the Ohio State loss, or they would lose and get passed by ASU. The chances of an Oregon Michigan Rose Bowl are very slim, which is a good thing, since we have already seen that game this year.

I like Mike Hart....but...uh....

have you seen Stewart? Just wondering.

[LionNation]

I would have to say that Stewart would make the better pro over Hart.

I'm a big Mike Hart fan but he just doesnt have the speed you would expect out a little guy like him. He definately won't be a first rounder like Stewart.

[Phalanx]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PLS6C0HKrMc

[Blog]

Ducks problem is no receivers.

[goldenlions]

I said in the college game, I would take Hart over Stewart.

Hart will be lucky to get drafted before the 3rd round. But that's not my argument.

[Phalanx]

Ducks problem is no receivers.

Too true. Our two starters against Michigan are both out for the season and a third has been out for the past three games with an ankle. The best remaining receiver has a severe case of the dropsies that could cost Dixon the Heisman. We are now playing three true freshmen all at once. Yikes.

The good news is, those freshman are pretty good and will have more experience by the time a bowl game rolls around. We just gotta get through these last three Pac-10 games.

Derrick Jones, who caught one of those long TD's against Michigan, should be back soon as well.

Who would have thought when I started this thread in '05 that we would be talking BCS game and Heisman? Here's hoping they can get into that game.

Go Ducks!

[LionNation]

Well, LSU and Oregon are #1 and #2 in the BCS. I hope it stays this way because these are the best two teams in the country.

LSU will dominate the Ducks but the Ducks deserve to go. They have had a impressive season so far.

[Huntermsu]

Well, LSU and Oregon are #1 and #2 in the BCS. I hope it stays this way because these are the best two teams in the country.

LSU will dominate the Ducks but the Ducks deserve to go. They have had a impressive season so far.

I dont know i think Kansas has a pretty strong case too, i think they suffer from not being known as a elite school if another big 12 team like Oklahoma or Texas were undefeated you could bet they would be #1 right now.

[Phalanx]

Oregon needs Michigan to beat OSU. Funny huh?

Well, as it turns out, we don't need the Wolverines to beat the Buckeyes after all, thanks to my new second favorite team, the Fighting Illini. I don't know what Illini is (are) but I'm all for it, whatever it is. Go Illini!!

A lot of prognosticators opining that the ultimate winner in the Big 12 is going to pass up the Ducks, just like in 2001. As big a travesty as that would be, it certainly could happen. In case you don't remember 2001 (a few years before the most popular thread in Redzone history was started) Joey led the Ducks to the Pac 10 championship and a #2 ranking on both the AP and the coach's poll, only to have the computers leapfrog both Nebraska and Colorado over the Ducks. Nebraska ended up being murdered by Miami in the Championship game, and Oregon beat the stuffings out of Colorado in the Fiesta Bowl and wound up #2 in the final poll. Let me tell you why that was a dark day for Lions fans and Duck fans alike. First, we didn't get the Championship game that we deserved to play in, and second, because the Ducks were pitted against an inferior team in the Fiesta Bowl, Joey looked like John Elway and Millen decided to draft him at #3 instead of in the second round or so like most Duck fans expected. This was bad both for Joey and for the Lions as has been well documented.

Please don't let this sort of thing happen again. If Oregon has to play a loser like Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, Dixon is going to look like a better passing version of Michael Vick and Millen will probably want to draft him in the first round, therebye sealing Dixon's doom in the NFL. We can't let that happen, people. Oregon needs to get the game they deserve, a shot at the title against LSU.

On a side note, a Michigan/Oregon Rose Bowl just became a little more likely than before. Still not a big chance, but it could happen with a Michigan win on Saturday. The Rose Bowl now must take the first-place team because Ohio State will not be picked up by the BCS game.

[Phalanx]

I don't know if there are any Jim Rome listeners here, but a lot of Ducks have been on there lately, including the offensive line. In that interview, back-up center Jeff Kendall delivered this rant:
http://www.ducksportsnews.com/blog/2007/11/09/jeff-kendalls-huge-call-of-the-day-on-the-jim-rome-show/

Kendall has since been re-christened 'Jeff Freaking Kendall'. Good stuff. You gotta love the college game for stuff like this. Rome has promised to have them on again if they win out.

Quote of the month: "We're just a bunch of fat kids livin' the dream"

[Phalanx]

Dennis Dixon out with knee injury....wow, just like Clemens two years ago. Clearly, his knee wasn't as good as everyone thought. Brady Leaf is terrible, and our promising young guy Costa is out for the season. This is terrible! The ridiculous rash of injuries finally catches up with Oregon. How depressing.

Depth is always going to be an issue at Oregon because we just can't recruit like a USC.

Watching the 4th quarter without much hope.

Meanwhile, basketball season has started...

[Murtyle]

Never like to see that... It definately sucks for the team and their fans...

So I guess this means if MICH wins on Sunday and Oregon ends up winning the Pac-10 we get a re-match in the Rose Bowl? I wouldn't mind getting a shot at some redemption...

[Phalanx]

Never like to see that... It definately sucks for the team and their fans...

So I guess this means if MICH wins on Sunday and Oregon ends up winning the Pac-10 we get a re-match in the Rose Bowl? I wouldn't mind getting a shot at some redemption...

I'm not sure you get what happened here. Dennis Dixon is out for the season. Brady Leaf sucks AND has a bad ankle to boot. RB Jonathan Stewart has an ankle; who knows if he comes back, RB Jeremiah Johnson out for the season. WR Paysinger, WR Colvin both gone, two of the new guys brought in to replace them, pflugrad and Scott are out with injuries...the list goes on and on. This offense will not recover, they will be just like last year, a dead team just playing out the string. You don't win in the Pac-10 without an offense. I don't even want the Rose Bowl, I just want to start playing freshmen for next year. If I never see Brady Leaf again it will be too soon.

This is going to be my last post here for awhile, I've just been too high on football lately and I need to get away from it. I feel like a heroine addict, I had an intense ride and now comes the crash.

I'll pick this thread up next year, or maybe during basketball season sometime.

Later guys.

[LAW]

Boy that sucks...hate to see a team lose because of injury, but as a Michigan fan we have been watching this all year play out. I definitely a healthy Ducks team would have been interesting to watch play against LSU...oh well...thanks for ruining Michigans strength of schedule...

[LionBacker]

I'm not sure you get what happened here. Dennis Dixon is out for the season. Brady Leaf sucks AND has a bad ankle to boot. RB Jonathan Stewart has an ankle; who knows if he comes back, RB Jeremiah Johnson out for the season. WR Paysinger, WR Colvin both gone, two of the new guys brought in to replace them, pflugrad and Scott are out with injuries...the list goes on and on. This offense will not recover, they will be just like last year, a dead team just playing out the string. You don't win in the Pac-10 without an offense. I don't even want the Rose Bowl, I just want to start playing freshmen for next year. If I never see Brady Leaf again it will be too soon.

This is going to be my last post here for awhile, I've just been too high on football lately and I need to get away from it. I feel like a heroine addict, I had an intense ride and now comes the crash.

I'll pick this thread up next year, or maybe during basketball season sometime.

Later guys.


Kiss the fantasy of the national championship goodbye.. LOL

[Phalanx]

Well, Duck fans, another year, another entry in the continuing saga in the ascension of the Ducks to national powerhouse status. Last year was heartbreaking for Duck fans as we watched our team, possibly the best in the nation at their peak, crumble into a mass of injuries, and 5th string quarterbacks starting. While the season did end on a high note with the decisive Bowl game victory over South Florida, the story of the year was disappointment as Dennis Dixon blew out his ACL and the offense fell apart.

Now that Jonathan Stewart and Dennis Dixon have joined the burgeoning legions of Ducks in the NFL, we look to a new face for Duck football, and that face is of Patrick Chung and the defense. This year, the Ducks will have possibly the best defensive secondary in all the land. If the new quarterback Nate Costa can generate any offense at all, this team will contend for the Pac-10 title again this year. While there are definitely some questions on the Defensive line, the hope is that some of coach Bellotti's new recruits can fill those holes over the course of the year.

The first game out of the chutes this year is against the hated Washington Huskies, and I will be sure to have commentary on that game for you, even though I will be on assignment in Fresno California during that week covering the resurgent Fresno State Bulldogs, who some preseason polls have ranked right near the Ducks.

P.S. Good luck to the wolverines this year, and my advice to fans as they implement the spread offense is be patient. This offense takes a year at least to perfect, but once it gets going, it's hard to stop. But then....I don't have to tell you people about that. You got a nice taste of it from the Ducks last year, which I can only assume led to the decision to switch offenses (and coaches) so abruptly.

Go Ducks!

[LionNation]

Michigan has had trouble with the spread for years. Michigan was already exposed before the Ducks came to town, a small college named Appalachian St. came to town before you guys and left with one of the greatest upsets of all time.

[Phalanx]

Word out of Eugene is that the quarterback slated to start this season, Nate Costa, is being held out of practice after re-injuring his surgically repaired knee. No word on how severe the injury is or when he will be able to play. Not a good way to start the season, but we still have Justin Roper, who started the bowl game last year and looked pretty good.

[def]

I think they might be better with Roper. Oregon is going to stop a lot of offenses this year, but with Stewart and Dixon gone, I wonder who is going to step up and tighten the slack.

Looks like jeremiah Johnson is getting the start, but there's a cat on the team, Andre Crenshaw, who might get a lot of carries, saw the guy play a high school game out of Cali, he is quick and strong...hope he gets a chance....

[Phalanx]

JJ is the starter, and for good reason. The guy can flat out run, and he has a stiff arm like you wouldn't believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbo4ZjMJXk

Or perhaps you would believe it, having seen it first hand. Anyway, behind him is a new guy, LeGarrette Blount, who is more of a power back like Jonathan Stewart. Crenshaw is backing both of them up and doing punt return duty as well I believe. I'm sure we'll see Crenshaw this season, but right now he's the third-string guy.

[def]

JJ looks good but I am just going by what I saw of Andre a few years back when I was visiting a friend in CALI. I saw Andre first hand, and immediately had to check the program for his stats, he was that impressive, but then again, I guess anybody going to a major college looked impressive in high school.

The game I saw Andre play, (who is beyond fast and strong) he had like 268 yards and I don't know how many TD's against Santa Clarita.

My friend Allen Servere (sp?) was a RB for the Barcelona Dragons in the now defunct WFL and even he remarked Andre had serious potential. This Andre kid put on a show, anyways, just some info I have of the ducks and hope the kid pans out...

[Phalanx]

If Crenshaw turned out to be a super-stud running back I would be thrilled. Or maybe he could play quarterback, becuase our starter, Nate Costa, just re-injured his knee and will be out most if not all of the season now.

This always figured to be a sketchy year quarterback wise, but now the best one is out and the new back-up will be a true freshman, so hopefully Roper is as tough as Joey was and can start every game.

The trouble with Roper is that he really isn't a mobile guy, so the power of the spread is lessened a bit. Offensive Coordinator Chip Kelly will probably try to get Chris Harper involved in the offense as a second throwing/running threat. Should be interesting to watch, hopefully involving winning the games as well.

First game is Saturday.

[Phalanx]

Well, another day, another injured starting quarterback. Roper gets a concussion after looking pretty good in the first half of the game against Washington. Ducks were forced to play the third and fourth string QB's (who are now actually second and third-string after Costa's season-long injury). Masoli, a JC transfer, actually looked pretty good for only being in the program a few months. I'm guessing Michigan wouldn't kick him out of bed...

Anyway, Ducks win in a romp, 44-10. This game was not a good test for the Ducks, and nobody thinks they will have this easy a time in upcoming games against Boise State and Purdue. THe pathetic Huskies have only one good player right now, Jake Locker, and I'm betting he wishes he had picked Oregon instead. He would have been perfect in the spread that Oregon runs.

Jeremiah Johnson ran for two td's and over 100 yards. I think you will be hearing his name mentioned in the national media (finally) because he is going to get a lot of carries in this offense with the back-up QB's still learning their job. I'm not sure if JJ is a Heisman candidate, but he is a pretty darn good back.

Utah State next week.

[Phalanx]

And so, my fellow Duck enthusiasts, another round of games has passed, and still the Ducks find themselves undefeated. This time the opponent was Purdue of your own Big 10. This game had a lot of Duck fans thinking of the season opener several year ago against Indiana when the Ducks just couldn't hold onto the ball and let a horrible team win. It almost happened again, although Purdue seems to be a decent team. The ducks were fumbling, dropping kick-offs, and just looking very poor in general on offense. Justin Roper looked terrible, throwing interceptions all over the place and the receivers were dropping passes. Apparently, there was a wind issue that made things worse as well, so there might be some excuse. All of these problems contributed to an early 20-3 lead for Purdue.

In the end though , the superior running game of the Ducks came through. With Jeremiah Johnson and especially LaGarrette Blount mowing down Purdue defenders, it was just a matter of time before the Ducks got rolling. As it turned out, it took two rounds of Kansas-Plan overtime before the Ducks finally put away the inferior opponent and added another Big 10 scalp to their totem pole. I don't think Purdue is a Big-10 contender by any stretch, but they look like they might be able to get a bowl game and finish in the top half. Their fifth-year QB and the running back looked good early, before the Ducks settled down and started playing some defense. It helps to have possibly the best secondary in college football, and the Ducks came up with some nice picks to help get them back in the game.

Next up: Boise State, probably the toughest team on the out of conference schedule. It's not too late for some of you Michigan fans to switch allegiances. The Ducks are not the team they were last year, but if yesterday's performance is any indication, the Pac-10 is looking pretty easy this year, except for that one team that beat the ever-living snot out of the Big-10's best team. yikes.

There are several analysts who think that the Ducks could sneak in to the Rose Bowl this year if USC makes the Championship game. Since Roper got injured at the end of the game and is out for several weeks, we'll have to see how Masoli or Harper play (that's #3 and #4 on the pre-season depth chart for those keeping score at home) in his stead.

3-0, so far so good.

[Huntermsu]

Well Boise State took care of that undefeated talk didnt they...

[Phalanx]

Well Boise State took care of that undefeated talk didnt they...

I've looked everywhere and I haven't seen any undefeated talk, but I guess if there was some, it is now gone. The Ducks started the third-string QB for this game, who quickly got injured and then we were stuck with a true freshman who is a great runner, but can't throw. Boise State played the run and the Ducks went nowhere and were down 37-13. Finally in the 4th quarter, they threw in the other true freshman (we are on QB #5 now) and suddenly he started lighting it up, and the Ducks made a ferocious comeback. Darron Thomas threw three Td passes in the quarter, but they ran out of time and the Ducks lose 37-32. The bad news is, they lost the game. The good news is, Dennis Dixon JR. is on his way. Hopefully Bellotti plays him from here on out.

So ,bummer about the loss, but looking for better things in the coming weeks with Darron Thomas.

[Huntermsu]

I did enjoy watching the Ducks RBs, but what happened to the Defense.

[LionNation]

I hope the Ducks never wear them uniforms they wore yesterday again. That has to be the worse of all time.

[Phalanx]

Hunter: I was a little surprised by how the secondary got burned on some of those plays, but Walter Thurmond III was out for the game and he is a lock-down corner normally. The big problem on defense is the lack of a pass rush, which gives the opposing QB all day to throw. We do have a JC DT that is supposed to be really good, but is starting late because of grades. We'll see. Boise State is fortunate to escape with that win, and I think they know it.

LN - I agree with you about some of the uniform combinations, but they are picked by the players, and there have actually been recruits who said they loved that about Oregon, so I guess we can't complain too much. I just bought a lightning yellow parka for the first time, but have yet to wear it. Maybe I'll just let it sit in my closet next to the Joey Detroit Lions jersey I never wore.

[LAW]

No offense Phalanx, but Purdue isn't exactly a good team. Just watched my Chips (MAC school) almost beat them, we were winning with a little over a minute to go but our defense is terrible.

[Lions2SB2]

No offense Phalanx, but Purdue isn't exactly a good team. Just watched my Chips (MAC school) almost beat them, we were winning with a little over a minute to go but our defense is terrible.

Really? I think Purdue is one of the better teams in the Big Ten.

[Phalanx]

No offense Phalanx, but Purdue isn't exactly a good team. Just watched my Chips (MAC school) almost beat them, we were winning with a little over a minute to go but our defense is terrible.

I'm not offended, Law. If you go back and read my post on the Purdue game, I came away thinking they probably weren't going to be contenders in the Big 10. The Ducks aren't playing well right now, and it's making teams that aren't great look like they are.

Another issue I neglected to mention with Boise State is that they took out our starting QB with a vicious late hit that gave him a concussion. I guess the strategy worked, because we had no offense for two quarters after that, until Thomas came in. I hate to see any injury occur, but under those circumstances, it kinda makes you feel like the win wasn't legit.

[LAW]

Really? I think Purdue is one of the better teams in the Big Ten.

For what they showed on Saturday they didn't look it, then again, Lefevour is the best QB in the state.


Phalanx-

I must have misunderstood the tone of your post.

[Felix]

So I guess with the Ducks losing their opening game that we wont be seeing Phalanx anytime soon?


Wait, Saints play Lions week 1....maybe we'll see him then....even though Joey wont see the field....

[Phalanx]

you rang?

Don't taunt me, Felix, or I will send LaGarrette Blount after you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtPoC8jJzRA

This was the most embarrassing game I have ever witnessed, not because of the game result, but because of what happened afterward. I sincerely hope Blount is removed from the team tomorrow.

[LionNation]

Might be the last time that Boise player taps someone on the shoulder pad and talks smack after a victory. :laughing7:

Anyways, just when i thought the Ducks had the ugliest uniforms of all time they come out with new uniforms this season that are even worse. The athletic director should be fired for approving these uniforms. Then again, when Phil Knight is writing the checks you just shut your mouth and play ball.

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics/800/TO/TOHTGAALAMDMCRS.20090623222307.JPG

[IrishBear]

Might be the last time that Boise player taps someone on the shoulder pad and talks smack after a victory. :laughing7:

Anyways, just when i thought the Ducks had the ugliest uniforms of all time they come out with new uniforms this season that are even worse. The athletic director should be fired for approving these uniforms. Then again, when Phil Knight is writing the checks you just shut your mouth and play ball.

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Only one I absolutely despise is the yellow one..yuck.

[Blog]

Observations of the Ducks 9-3-09: A no talent ghetto team. What did they have 14 total yards in the 1st half? Nice ghetto RB you have there, when he was getting all ghetto and if someone handed him a .380 he would have caped some asses for sure. A pathetic indefensible team.

[Felix]

you rang?

Don't taunt me, Felix, or I will send LaGarrette Blount after you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtPoC8jJzRA

This was the most embarrassing game I have ever witnessed, not because of the game result, but because of what happened afterward. I sincerely hope Blount is removed from the team tomorrow.

I just missed you...we've been having some good religious discussions and you were missed ;)


Dude, that punch was awesome (from a drama and talking head fodder point of view)...but I appreciate the hard stance you take as a fan of that team :icon_thumright:

[Blog]

I just missed you...we've been having some good religious discussions and you were missed ;)


Dude, that punch was awesome (from a drama and talking head fodder point of view)...but I appreciate the hard stance you take as a fan of that team :icon_thumright:

Dude, that punch was awesome (from a drama and talking head fodder point of view)...but I appreciate the hard stance you take as a fan of that team
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How can you enjoy such a despicable display? Would you get kicks watching people getting gassed in WWII? Your response was very 3rd grade.

[Felix]

right , blog...a punch is equated to genecide...nice analogy :violent1:

[Blog]

Thanks, and now you display the three stooges hammer hitting the head deal :violent1:,Need of anger management classes?

[Lions2SB2]

I for one kinda liked it but then again not. This clown made a fool of himself, he acted like he was 2, and on national tv also. Everyone watching!!! He will get suspended. Whole season? No, but I am thinking at least half the season.

[Vic Turner]

That was very ghetto!

[Murtyle]

I for one kinda liked it but then again not. This clown made a fool of himself, he acted like he was 2, and on national tv also. Everyone watching!!! He will get suspended. Whole season? No, but I am thinking at least half the season.

He got the whole season suspension and he deserved it.... How are you going to punch someone in the face when he's not looking 1 and 2 when your bitch ass still has your helmet on?

[Felix]

He got the whole season suspension and he deserved it.... How are you going to punch someone in the face when he's not looking 1 and 2 when your bitch ass still has your helmet on?
and 3 after you just got your ass handed to you....

[Felix]

This reminds me...


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[Felix]

Another thought on this...not that I excuse his actions...BUT....I almost, almost feel bad for him. You have to put yourself in his shoes for a second to understand this....the kid just got through with an emotional loss...his emotions are riding high and the juices from a competitive game are flowing. Then someone comes up and talks shit. He reacted. I am not justifying it, or saying it was ok, but does the punishment fit the crime? I mean there is a strong chance he wont make it into the NFL based on this.

Think for a second...players that kill people drinking and driving play in the NFL....players that get in fights at bars can still play...but this guys hits someone while competitive juices are in full swing is now essentially blackballed.....kind of sad if you think about it...he would have better served punching a cop off the field than a fellow competitor after the game....I think priorities are a little out of whack on this one....

[LionNation]

Yeah, they said he went from a possibly 2nd round pick to maybe undrafted now.

I don't feel a bit sorry for him. Just shows he has no discipline. So what the guy talked shit to him. Talk shit back or just keep walking. From what i gather he was talking a lot of shit in the pre-game handshake. He just got it back at the end of the game.

It was a ghetto move by a ghetto player. Look at the aftermath after the punch was thrown. He was uncontrollable.

Have a nice year punk.

[Phalanx]

I love it. A JUCO guy from Florida picks a bloody nationally televised, first game of the freaking season to go completely bonkers and make Oregon look like some ghetto school. Seriously, when does the track season start? My in-laws from Fresno wrote and said Blount reminded them of guys from some of their basketball teams...that was the worst thing they could say to me. When Fresno State fans think your player is ghetto, that's the limit.

Anyway, please remember that he was booted from the team the next day. This is not who Oregon is. I think they will rebound and play better this weekend against Purdue, and they will definitely think twice about some of these JUCO prospects in the future.

Just to cleanse your palate, think of Oregon as the school of Dan Fouts, Ahmad Rashad, Joey Harrington, Jonathan Stewart, Haloti Ngata. Nice, classy guys. Or if you like, think of it in terms of Steve Prefontaine, or the movie Animal House. Anything but the demonstration you saw last Thursday.

On a side note, I never liked Blount as the featured back, and the guy I did like, LaMichael James, is now the starter. Hopefully he can help improve what was an extremely anemic offense on opening night, and we can move on from this debacle.

[Phalanx]

I just missed you...we've been having some good religious discussions and you were missed ;)


Dude, that punch was awesome (from a drama and talking head fodder point of view)...but I appreciate the hard stance you take as a fan of that team :icon_thumright:

I have been too busy having a crisis of belief about being a fan of Oregon to get involved in much else, but I am starting to get over it. The suspension really helped show me that Coach Kelly isn't trying to win at any cost. Anyway, glad to hear you are still wrestling with the whole religion thing, Felix. God may win you over yet. ;)

[Phalanx]

Well, Duck enthusiasts, the last time I recapped a duck game on this thread, the ducks looked as though they were ready to challenge the Lions' record for most losses in a season. The starting running back, who was touted as a possible Heisman dark horse before the season, decided to go berserk and was suspended for the rest of his career, and the offense was as inept as I have ever seen them.

What a difference a few games makes.

Since that dark day, the Ducks have notched wins against Purdue of your own Big 10, a Utah team who was coming off a BCS bowl win and a 16-game winning streak, and today, the Ducks took the sixth-ranked team in the country to the woodshed, 42-3.

No, gentle readers, that was not a typo. After fumbling the first kickoff of the game and giving the ball to the Cal Bears 1st and 10 at the Duck 22, the stout Duck defense allowed only the resulting field goal for the entire game. The highlights can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpDGn5jid44

Suddenly, the Ducks find themselves in the position of front-runner in the Pac-10. Both Cal and USC have lost games and these two former favorites are playing each other next week, so the loser is probably out of contention for the Rose Bowl. The Ducks get USC at home this year, so the schedule is favorable. The offense is starting to look like last year's team that took it to Oklahoma State in the Holiday Bowl.

Next up is Washington State, the worst team in the conference. Hopefully our boys won't blow it.

Go Ducks!

[def]

Well, borderline duck enthusiast here...actually that's not true, not really a fan at all of anything yellow and green except for maybe this...


http://www.socialpicks.com/photo/name/3348/money.jpg + http://www.boozebasher.com/images/Scotch/Scoresby.jpg


But then again I'm a Lions fan so that probably amounts to only a handful of bad NFL draft pics...BUT my point is, I would like to see them succeed, if only to see them take a negative and turn it into a positive...

Thanks for the update. What a win! I don't think Michigan could beat Cal by such a score. But then again I don't really like Michigan either.

Or State.

But...Sounds pretty impressive. If they can turn this media publicity nightmare around it would make for a great story.

[Felix]

Oregon may reinstate RB LeGarrette Blount
41 minutes ago

Buzz up! 731 PrintEUGENE, Ore. (AP)—Oregon running back LeGarrette Blount’s season-long suspension for punching an opponent could be lifted if he meets certain conditions, coach Chip Kelly said.

“It’s not a football decision, it’s a human being decision. It’s about that individual,” Kelly said Friday. “And he’s got a lot of things he’s got to do.”

Blount punched Boise State’s Byron Hout in the aftermath of Oregon’s 19-8 season-opening loss to the Broncos. The suspension banned him from games, but Blount was allowed to remain on scholarship and practice with the team.

Kelly said he set down academic, behavioral and football-related “ladders” that Blount must achieve for possible reinstatement, but he did not provide specifics. Academics could not be addressed earlier because classes had not started.

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Blount signed an agreement outlining the requirements last week.

Should Blount meet the conditions, the earliest he could return to the team is Oregon’s Nov. 7 game at Stanford—and there is no guarantee that he would be allowed back at that time, if at all.

“There’s a distinct possibility he’ll never play football here again,” Kelly said. “But the ball is in LeGarrette’s court.”

If and when Blount meets the conditions, Oregon will have to appeal to the Pacific-10 Conference to reduce the original discipline.

“The power to reinstate rests with the Conference, and if and when the university decides to make such an appeal, the Conference will take the matter under advisement and make a decision,” commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement.

Blount could not be reached for comment on Friday. Following his suspension, he was told not to speak to the media.

Kelly said he reached out to sociologist Harry Edwards and former NFL coach Tony Dungy before revising the conditions of Blount’s suspension. The university said in a statement that athletic director Mike Bellotti and President Richard Lariviere also were involved in the process.

Hout was dropped to his knees by Blount’s punch following the Ducks’ Sept. 3 loss to the Broncos on national television.

Kelly suspended Blount for the rest of the season the next day. Because he is a senior, the suspension effectively ended Blount’s college career.

On Thursday, the university newspaper published a letter of apology from Blount. In it, he offered his “sincerest apologies and heartfelt regrets.”

“On a personal note, I probably will never be able to erase the memories of the post-game events of that day. Given this, I do not expect to be given a second chance to be a positive and responsible member of the football program and of this community,” Blount said in the letter to the editor. “Going forward, what I hope for is the opportunity to show that I am able to earn a second chance as a University student. And if I am so fortunate, I believe that I also will demonstrate that I am a better man and a better human being for having lived through this unfortunate experience.”

It was Blount’s first public comment since an apology to reporters immediately following the Boise State game.

Blount and Kelly called Boise State coach Chris Petersen and Hout soon after the suspension to apologize. Kelly said Friday that the call was Blount’s idea.

There has been support for Blount among some of Oregon’s fans. Students at last weekend’s 42-3 upset of California at Autzen Stadium were seen wearing “Free Blount” T-shirts.

Blount, a 6-foot-2, 240-pound transfer from East Mississippi Community College, rushed for 1,002 yards and a school-record 17 touchdowns last season.

Oregon has won three straight games since the loss to the Broncos. The No. 16 Ducks host Washington State on Saturday..

[goldenlions]

Think the boosters might have put some pressure on the school?

[Phalanx]

I highly doubt that this was a decision based on any outside pressure. If that were so, he would have been back for the USC game.

Let me just say that although i am still undecided about the actual decision to bring Blount back, I think Chip Kelly is a genius for his timing. This couldn't have been done better if it had all, ahem, been planned and coordinated from the beginning. Firstly, the harshest punishment possible was administered, and time was given for the sympathizers to voice their displeasure at the severity (including Boise State fans and media!) and for everyone else to feel like a real punishment had already occurred. Also, the Ducks won all of their games since then and look to be Pac-10 contenders without Blount. The Ducks do not need LaGarrette to succeed, that is clear by now. Th is can be legitimately framed as a measure to help the young man, not the team's chances.

Next, the timing of this announcement, right before Kelly knows Oregon is going to blow out Washington State, so that all of the media buzz will mostly be gone by the time a more difficult game has to be played. Is Blount coming back tomorrow? No, he still has a month of rigid supervision and hurdles before he can even have the chance to come back. Can you picture this being sold to the Pac-10, the ultimate authority here? Blount will still miss UCLA, homecoming against Washington, and the big USC game. The contest against the Trojans is especially important because it tells the Pac-10 and the media that he is not being brought back to help the Ducks win. It is looking more and more like that game will decide the pac-10, and it will already have been played by the time Blount is eligible. Also, if laMichael James gets injured between now and November, Blount might actually be needed, but the plan to reinstate him was already in place, so again, 'need' is not the primary driver for this decision.

The other aspect of this that I find brilliant is that the pressure has now shifted from the university to Blount himself. If he wants to come back, he has to jump through the hoops that are already written on paper beforehand. This is going to silence a lot of critics who see this as coddling an athlete.

Genius!

[Phalanx]

And so, another round of games has passed and Oregon has again blown out an inferior Pac-10 opponent. First it was Cal 42-3, and this time Wazzou 52-6, including a touchdown by def's boy Andre Crenshaw. The guy who all Duck fans are glad is doing well is Ed Dickson, and he was amazing again yesterday. This guy might be the best tight end in the country, and you will definitely be seeing him on Sundays.

The one difference in this blowout versus last week's is that yesterday Oregon could have scored a lot more if they wanted to; this game was 42-0 at halftime. I have to laugh at the polls today. Oregon blows out the #6 team in the country and gets ranked #25 by the coaches, but then the Ducks beat up on one of the worst teams in Division 1 and they move up to 17th. The rise in the A.P. poll was less dramatic, from 16th to 13th. The writers are always quicker to catch on when the Ducks are having a good season. The coaches are basically all living in the 70's and 80's still, so traditional powerhouses get voted in as if they were the Kennedy family. I still can't figure out why Penn State is ranked higher than Iowa. or why Oklahoma is ranked at all with two losses.

Anyway, next week's game against UCLA is the first road test since the debacle in Boise. I think the Ducks are up to the task, but you never know what a road game will bring.

A side note, during the week we lost Walter Thurmond 111 for the year. He was, perhaps, the best single player on the team and it's very fortunate for the Ducks that they were deep at corner. We'll see how much this loss is felt when we play a team with a great quarterback, which we have yet to do.

So far, the Rose Bowl looks like a distinct possiblity if the Ducks can take care of business going into the USC game. Oh, and this time around we have two quarterbacks, and I'm still not sure which one is better. It's nice to have that insurance, unlike in years past.

Go Ducks!

[Phalanx]

Thought I'd check in with an Oregon update. It's a good time to be a Duck! The team is riding high on a six-game win streak, having recently won two road games against UCLA and Washington. This Saturday is a huge day for 10th-ranked Oregon as USC comes to town looking like an overripe fruit just waiting to be picked. If Oregon can win that game, it might be a Rose Bowl for the Ducks for the first time since 1994.

The game is at 5 p.m. Pacific time and ESPN Gameday is coming to town. Don't miss it; I have a really good feeling about the outcome. :)

Also, has anyone noticed how former Duck DB Jairus Byrd is playing for Buffalo? He might be single-handedly saving Dick Jauron's job over there. Five picks in the last three games! If he keeps this up, they might actually have to learn how to pronounce his name and his college team.

Trick or Rose Bowl!

[Felix]

I have a party to go to, but I may be late so I can watch the game...the freshman for USC has looked to be loosening up a little....could be a good game....

[Phalanx]

The weather here has been rainy, which favors the Ducks IMO. Oregon's running attack has been stellar and USC's running backs have been injured. I know it's a saying that 'it never rains at Autzen', but we might make an exception in this case because of the advantage it would give to the good guys.

Go Ducks!

[Blog]

USA will trounce them; USC gets better as the year goes on- every year.

[bogartin]

Did Oregon secede from the union? What nationality do they claim?

[Phalanx]

Well, my friends, tonight was one of the most significant wins by the team in green and gold (and black and white and...grellow?) in my lifetime. The #4 USC Trojans came to town favored by 3 points and picked by all manner of prognosticators as the favorite to win, only to be hammered 47-20.

After what I saw tonight, I would put my Ducks up against any team in college football. There is only one other time I have ever thought that, and it was two years ago before Dennis Dixon went down. This team is really that good on offense and defense.

Still four pretty hard teams to face, but the Rose Bowl is looking less like a possibility and more life a probability. Go Ducks!

[LionNation]

USC is not really all that great this year. Still a good win but i can think of a few teams that would handle the Ducks.

[Huntermsu]

USC is not really all that great this year. Still a good win but i can think of a few teams that would handle the Ducks.

I am just glad that this will put to bed any talk of USC in a title game, kudos to the Ducks its never easy to beat USC because of the size of their payroll.

[Phalanx]

USC is not really all that great this year. Still a good win but i can think of a few teams that would handle the Ducks.

It's true that USC is not as good as they have been in past years, but they did beat Ohio State and Notre Dame at their own places; I think they are better than any team in the Big 10. One can only speculate about how Oregon would do against Florida, Texas, Alabama, or TCU, but I feel pretty confident that the Ducks could hang with them. Nevertheless, you are entitled to your opinion, LN. The way college football works now, we will probably never find out because if the Ducks win out, they would only go to the Rose Bowl against Iowa, another team that looks ready to be plucked.

The really beautiful thing about Oregon's run this year is that the team is so young...almost the whole team will be back next year, so hopefully we can keep it rolling for at least two seasons in a row.

I would be remiss if I did not also mention Jairus Byrd, who had two more picks for the Bills yesterday, which makes a whopping seven in 4 games. Jonathan Stewart also rushed for two TD's. The Ducks are taking over the NFL! ;)

[Murtyle]

Texas crushes any and all this year...

[Phalanx]

Texas crushes any and all this year...

You'll pardon me, I hope, if I am not impressed with any Big 12 team whose out of conference games are against UTEP, UCF, Wyoming, and Louisiana-Monroe. The Big 12 is overrated pretty much every year, and Oregon has already beaten Texas, Colorado, and Oklahoma State in bowl games this decade, and I believe all three of those teams were favored over the Ducks going in because of how amazingly incredible the Big 12 is compared to the Pac-10.

Texas's schedule is a joke; I think they should play Boise State in the "I stayed undefeated by playing mugs most of the year" Bowl.

[goldenlions]

Watch out this weekend.